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    #41
    Originally posted by just the facts View Post
    Your last three posts you made here are some of the dumbest shyte I've ever read on NSB and that's saying a lot. Do you post just for shock value or are you truly this ******?
    Please explain how they're ******? Tyson could beat Ali, no result is guaranteed among top level fighters.
    Usyk has a great cruiser resumé and we are not talking about who's the greatest heavyweight so tell me how are any of those statements ******? Are you handicapped because you sure seem to be if you have such an issue with that.
    Last edited by BoloShot; 04-05-2020, 01:20 PM.

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      #42
      Originally posted by just the facts View Post
      Your last three posts you made here are some of the dumbest shyte I've ever read on NSB and that's saying a lot. Do you post just for shock value or are you truly this ******?
      If you think any of that is ******, then I'm afraid you're the one with the issue here. Not me.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Black Jesus View Post
        He's able to crack the conversation, but I would rate Holy and Haye above him, and I'd even rate James Toney above him even though he only had one fight
        How could you possibly rate James Toney above Usyk at Crusierweight?

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          #44
          Originally posted by BoloShot View Post
          Tyson could've outboxed Ali for sure. Hell he fought like a much improved Joe Frazier.
          Tyson fought nothing like Frazier.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Thraxox View Post
            Not only does Usyk has a greater cruiswerweight career than Holyfield, Usyk also has a better resume in Cruiserweight and was much more dominant in his reign along with the fact that he was clean while Holyfield tested positive for PEDS.
            Holyfield never tested positive for PEDs.

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              #46
              Originally posted by DreamFighter View Post
              Usyk is close without a doubt.

              some of Holyfields status is "unconsciously" borrowed from what he did at HW, even though we are only talking about CW, its difficult to cut the two apart fully for some of us.


              This is about right I think. Obviously when you add in Evander's HW accomplishments he is obviously considered greater overall and will continue to be unless Usyk achieves what would seem impossible at HW, but simply looking at their CW runs it's very much what you prefer.

              For me Usyk's achievement of beating 3 unbeaten Champs on their own turf is pretty much unparalleled in any division, but there's some who might consider Evanders victory over Qawi the greater single achievement on the way to undisputed.

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                #47
                Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita View Post
                Naw he’s far from it. He isnt even a top 10 yet.
                Whut?

                I'm gonna just assume you're either joking or misunderstood the question, man.
                Last edited by Citizen Koba; 04-05-2020, 03:29 PM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                  Tyson fought nothing like Frazier.
                  Well he wasn't as reliant on one punch as Frazier was but he had a similar peakaboo style that caused Ali immense trouble to figure out. The fact it was a more refined, speedier and deadlier version of the style makes it so that the fight is closer than some would think. Ali is obviously still the favourite but it's not like it's a given he'd win it.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by BoloShot View Post
                    Well he wasn't as reliant on one punch as Frazier was but he had a similar peakaboo style that caused Ali immense trouble to figure out. The fact it was a more refined, speedier and deadlier version of the style makes it so that the fight is closer than some would think. Ali is obviously still the favourite but it's not like it's a given he'd win it.
                    Frazier didn't have a peak a boo style.

                    Frazier was an inside fighter which is what troubled Ali. Tyson didn't fight on the inside at all.

                    They fight nothing alike.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      Frazier didn't have a peak a boo style.

                      Frazier was an inside fighter which is what troubled Ali. Tyson didn't fight on the inside at all.

                      They fight nothing alike.
                      Em what? No. The peakaboo style is essentially a creation of Frazier's, at least the term wasn't popularised until he came about. The Bob and weave style, using deadly hooks and uppercuts to destroy your foe on the inside, that's part of the peakaboo style, they're inside fighters. That's what Tyson and Frazier did. Are you deliberately trolling right now? Because you just said something so patently untrue that it's actually bafflingly ******.

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