Young srl beats floyd any weight ww and above. But srl past 32 floyd might have chance. The coke shortened srl career
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Mayweather vs Sugar Ray Leonard - who wins?
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SRL defeated legends who were in their prime while Floyd did not. This question is an insult to SRL.
No ones knows what happens if Floyd fights an ATG in their prime. Maybe the pressure makes him fall apart.
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We’ll never know. I’ll say this though with exception of Hearns and Duran, I’ve observed that Leonard fought a bunch of sitting ducks. For all the praise Wilfred Benitez got, he fought a dumb fight against Leonard. Every punches he threw were telegraph, he didn’t probed the jab/feints to offset Leonard’s forward aggression and was constantly off balance. He did had moments against Leonard when he used the jab, but even then he gave him the same look over and over and lost the fight.
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Originally posted by el*** View PostFloyd has an iron jaw and one of the best staminas of all time.
Leonard would be tired in the late rounds where Floyd would dominate.
lol if you think leonard stops floyd, youre dreaming.
Leonard was a natural welterweight and never moved up like cotto, ODLH.
Iron jaw ? from his prime years leonard was hurt one time from Duran and even then he was not dropped so talking about iron jaws do you know what your talking about.
Mayweather was hurt by maidana , dropped by Judah and hurt badly by mosley.
And before you say I’m talking prime ray leonard not when he moved up after years retired and substance abuse.
If your gonna post a reply make sure your arguments stand up to scrutiny
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Originally posted by richardt View PostOperative words "12 rounds". Leonard went 15, unlike any active fighter on the entire planet today. And Oscar does not have remotely the same speed as Leonard, nor the power. And the competition of either Oscar or Floyd didn't compare to Leonard. Leonard by UD. Not a single welterweight since Leonard would have been able to have wins over the big 4 in Benitez, Hearns, Duran, and Hagler. Hearns knocks out anything at 147 since.
Leonard could fight on the back foot , could use footwork in and out , could make a counter puncher lead , and could hunt you down and finish you and Cus damato actually called leonard the best finisher since a prime joe Louis.
There is no scenario that the Mayweather who beat Oscar or cotto can beat the leonard that defeated hearns in 1981.
That leonard stops Mayweather in the late rounds no question
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Originally posted by The plunger man View Postdo you have any idea what your talking about ....leonard was a championship round fighter and stopped Benitez and hearns very last 14th and 15th rounds , came on strong against Duran in there 1st fight and won the 13,14 and 15th.
Leonard was a natural welterweight and never moved up like cotto, ODLH.
Iron jaw ? from his prime years leonard was hurt one time from Duran and even then he was not dropped so talking about iron jaws do you know what your talking about.
Mayweather was hurt by maidana , dropped by Judah and hurt badly by mosley.
And before you say I’m talking prime ray leonard not when he moved up after years retired and substance abuse.
If your gonna post a reply make sure your arguments stand up to scrutiny
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Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View PostWas watching Leonard-Hearns I yesterday. Tommy hurt Ray in that fight. No surprise; Hearns was a killer. But as you say, Leonard had a very dependable chin. Like Ali, Ray’s speed, style, charisma and looks made people overlook the fact that he was a very tough man.
After all hearns was 32 -0 with 30 knock outs and probably the most fearsome puncher in the history of the welterweights.
No one beats leonard in his prime except arguably Ray Robinson
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Originally posted by Carpe Diem View PostWe’ll never know. I’ll say this though with exception of Hearns and Duran, I’ve observed that Leonard fought a bunch of sitting ducks. For all the praise Wilfred Benitez got, he fought a dumb fight against Leonard. Every punches he threw were telegraph, he didn’t probed the jab/feints to offset Leonard’s forward aggression and was constantly off balance. He did had moments against Leonard when he used the jab, but even then he gave him the same look over and over and lost the fight.
Remember that Benitez was fighting arguably the second best welterweight of all time, behind “Sugar” Ray Robinson. It’s easy to say, he should’ve done this and he should’ve done that. It’s another thing to carry it out.
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Originally posted by The plunger man View Postthe visible sigh that leonard was hurt was against Duran where you see his legs go....I’m sure there were many moments in the hearns fight where he hurt leonard but leonard never showed it visibly
After all hearns was 32 -0 with 30 knock outs and probably the most fearsome puncher in the history of the welterweights.
No one beats leonard in his prime except arguably Ray Robinson
Hearns was a stellar boxer and murderous puncher. The fact Leonard fought him as well as he did speaks volumes. I tend to agree that Ray was arguably just below Robinson, but Tommy was only twenty-two in their first meeting (Leonard was twenty-five), and was apparently weight-drained. A prime, solid Hearns might’ve very well beaten Ray in that first encounter.
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prime floyd got wobbled against judah and corley. prime leonard was never as hurt as floyd and he fought much better competition. if we had floyd vs other prime greats we could compare but alas we dont have that and yet he still loses the chin battle. why are you giving him fantasy advantages he clearly hasn't earned?
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