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    #21
    "Against Valero, Morales let his hands go. He worked on setting up and landing his big right hand, which was one of the Mexican's keys to victory against Pacquiao. "

    "I let my hands go, too," Valero told MaxBoxing in an exclusive interview at his apartment in Montebello, California this past Tuesday. "We were there to work, but we didn't hold back with our power punches. I had to punch as I do in regular fights because of the altitude. The Otomi mountains are way up there, man. After one minute of sparring, I felt like I had gone 10 rounds."

    "The left hand stunned him," Valero said, rewinding the video to the exact moment of impact then slowing it down to make sure the scribes watching could catch it. "His eyes rolled back. He was almost cross-eyed for a few seconds. I backed off and just threw jabs. We were there to work, not fight."

    "I busted his nose in first round," Valero said proudly. "My white trunks were covered in blood after the second round. Blood stains are hard to get out, so I trashed the trunks on Saturday before I left for Los Angeles. How ****** was that? I probably could have sold the damn thing on eBay."

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      #22
      From the descriptions on this thread, it seems to me that Valero has the subtlety and finis of a wrecking ball. But, like a wrecking ball, he gets the job done.

      He's had only 20 pro fights, and even that number cannot be taken at face value, given that he dusted off most of his foes in the first round, with only Mosquera and one other going beyond the initial canto. It can be said that he has only fought the equivalent of one 12-round fight (36 minutes)-- more or less-- in his entire pro career. Surely not much time to hone skills under real fight conditions.

      That lethal punch is what Valero brings to his fights. And, that's a lot.

      But with that said, it must quickly be added that fans have been disappointed before by huge punchers. Mugabi, among others, swifly comes to mind.

      Note should also be made on the third round KD by Mosquera who has dispatched only half his previous opponents before the full schedule (12KO's in 24 Ws), with only Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai as foe with a reconizable name (Mosquera floored the Thai three times, but was himself KD'd once, on the way to winning by UD, and wresting the WBA title).

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        #23
        Originally posted by mr. bojangles
        i can upload that maxboxing gym wars for you guys, but don't get carried away with Valero's performance against Morales, El Terrible was working on his timing and counterpunching, he was letting Valero hit him. this sparring was in preparation to Pacquiao-Morales 1.

        bro can you hook me up with the gym wars Morales-Valero ..

        thanks in advance bro!

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          #24
          Originally posted by mr. bojangles
          you need an answer? read my post again. you seemed clueless
          You pulled some **** out your ass, no need to read that nonsense again

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            #25
            Originally posted by mr. bojangles
            Valero is for REAL. nuff said.

            He'll knock out every body at 130, Pac and Barrios included.
            THat is he could survive from there punches

            Valero is still new once a real slick boxer comes is going to finish him.

            by belief is Guzman is going to fight him and he would KO him

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              #26
              Guzman vs Valero is a very good match...

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                #27
                Originally posted by azza-mc
                hes a prospect 2 look out for,he cant be underestimated or overestimated at the moment,but hes lookin good and he knows he needs 2 prove sumthin
                Prospects don't hold world titles. He stopped being a prospect when he took the fight with Mosquera, and became a contender. Now he's a champion.

                Valero looks good in the sparring sessions but I guess he just comes out like a windmill in his pro fights, from what I've heard. He's fought some durable guys and KO'd them in less than 2 (except for Mosquera, obviously). Here's a list of fighters who were considered durable (this is for you, DLT):

                Roque Cassiani - He'd gone the distance with Wilfredo Vazquez, Juan Manuel Marquez, and Victor Polo; He'd also gone 10 with Mighty Mike Anchondo and since losing to Valero, has gone the distance with Leavander Johnson, Koba Gogoladze, and Urbano Antillon.

                Estaban De Jesus - He was coming off a DQ loss to Mosquera in a fight that, by all acounts, he was dominating. He had proven himself a good, durable journeyman and Valero disposed of him in 1.

                Whyber Garcia - He'd gone 12 with Valdemir Pereira and 9 with Maldonado. He'd proven his durability as well.

                Genaro Trazancos - He'd fought Jose Cotto to 7 rounds, Daniel Seda to 10, and Luevano to 5, yet Valero destroyed him in 2.

                I have nothing but good things to say about Valero but I'd like to see the Mosquera fight and judge for myself how well he does after the second round.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by DLT
                  I just downloaded Magicjordan's video of him and to me he looked very flawed. He is basically another version of Pac. I hate watching one demensional Southpaws who just throw there left hand over & over & over again, e****ally when it comes from a ****ty angle. He doesnt seem to have any kind of boxing skill at all. Pac has alot of speed and throws good combos. Valero just seems like a one punch at a time stalker.

                  I kind of liked the guys JMM fought last night. All he did was throw his left also but it was very techniqal. Valero has one of those ****ty lefts that come from the waiste and is extremely low. A good fighter would eat that **** up with a straight right that would clean his clock. Thats what the guy did last night and thats what some others have done to him but they dont have the power or skills to hurt him.

                  His chin stays wide open. Will he be a good fighter? Probally but nothing special and he's really only going to be good because he is a lefty and most guys have hard times fighting them because you cant see there **** coming.

                  If he fights Rocky or MAB right now he would get his ass whooped. He is sloppy, has bad footwork, stays offbalance, keeps his chin up, and throws low wide shots. Atleast Pac throws his **** straight.

                  Again, its hard to judge from one look but that **** was a bad look and he just seems like a gunner to me with extremly bad technique. I think a great fight right now would be him vs Barrios
                  who the **** are you Teddy Atlas?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by dansweeney
                    who the **** are you Teddy Atlas?
                    Relax, his entitle to post his own opinion in here, its his observance of Valero. Fans like diffirent styles of boxing and Valero's style does not fit him.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by loui_ludwig
                      Relax, his entitle to post his own opinion in here, its his observance of Valero. Fans like diffirent styles of boxing and Valero's style does not fit him.

                      he acts like he is an expert boxing trainer. remember he just tore apart a guy who is 20-0 with 20 ko's and just won the wba title. sounds like an armchair qb to me

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