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The Wilder vs Fury 2 undercard absolutely sucks

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    #21
    Promoters figured out a long time ago that undercards don’t sell PPVs.

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      #22
      No real notable names on it but I think its full of good competitive fights.

      Looks lackluster if just glancing over names/records but I think it requires a deeper look. Joe Santisima for example sure he hasn't fought anyone good and has 2 losses but he was like 16/17 in those fights, a mere boy. After watching a few of his fights Navarette might not want to look past him he looks quite dangerous albeit at a much lower level. This could well be a sleeper imo

      He has no real head movement but there is a lot to like about Santisima.

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        #23
        Originally posted by EnglishOxide View Post
        Maybe some people do not want to support the boxing industry being run the way it has been by PBC/Top Rank?

        By paying for this PPV people are saying to the promoters that it's ok to feed us that Wallin/Schwarz/Breazeale/Ortiz 2 crap for the last 15 months instead of giving us meaningful fights.
        Dude, you paid for AJ/Ruiz, which was garbage, but was a huge upset. You are going to pay for AJ/Pulev, which is garbage as well.

        You have no issue paying to see a fighter you like, regardless of who the opponent is. Don't get mad when other people do the same

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          #24
          Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
          Yeah, I was thinking how Martin/Washington could turn out to be a war.
          You would never know, yeah not great names on paper but that doesn’t mean it might not be a great fight.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Ray* View Post
            You would never know, yeah not great names on paper but that doesn’t mean it might not be a great fight.
            Even “on paper” you can make an argument for “former world champion vs former title challenger.”

            ****, I should get my promoters license

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              #26
              The undercard is what made me decide not to order this pay-per-view. It's just disrespectfully terrible. This is probably the worst one I've ever seen, except for the Floyd/Manny undercard, which was highlighted by Leo Santa Cruz vs. a literal cab driver.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                Tell me the last 3 PPV undercards you loved? It's a PPV of course the undercard isn't fire.

                PPV undercards are always ho hum. It's the exception going against the rule when there is a good one.
                The Errol Spence vs Mikey Garcia undercard was decent, as was the undercard for Spence vs Porter.

                There's no good reason why a paying boxing fan shouldn't expect more value for money.

                Especially if PBC is involved since they certainly have the roster for it.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
                  No real notable names on it but I think its full of good competitive fights.

                  Looks lackluster if just glancing over names/records but I think it requires a deeper look. Joe Santisima for example sure he hasn't fought anyone good and has 2 losses but he was like 16/17 in those fights, a mere boy. After watching a few of his fights Navarette might not want to look past him he looks quite dangerous albeit at a much lower level. This could well be a sleeper imo

                  He has no real head movement but there is a lot to like about Santisima.
                  I bet you Navarrete runs right through him. Easy work.

                  This is like a pro wrestling squash match where a superstar beats a jobber like Iron Mike Sharpe or Barry Horowitz...except that the WWE would show those on free tv to entice people to buy a PPV.

                  In boxing they actually expect you to pay to watch the squash match.

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                    #29
                    Americans don't know how lucky they've got it. Us Brits have to be sat up til 4-5am watching that garbage undercard.

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                      #30
                      Hopefully they're quick KOs to get us closer to the main event.

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