Are the detractors suggesting Canelo take a pay cut???

[aboutfkntime]

No take it or leave it offer for Brook from who, you fucking moron ... his own promoter?

And if GGG didn't want to fight Jacobs, why did he offer him more than his mandated purse split when he could have just walked away?

FACT: Golovkin did not throw a take-it-or-leave-it lowball offer to Kell Brook... like he threw a take-it-or-leave-it lowball offer to Jacobs and Saunders... because, Golovkin actually wanted to fight Kell Brook

FACT: you 100% know that I was referring to the first offer to Jacobs, back in 2015... not the offer that was under mandate in 2016... you lying ass-hole...

what they did to Saunders... is EXACTLY what they had already done to Jacobs when they offered him "Quillin money" in 2015... they threw a horrible lowball that they knew would kill the fight... with NO negotiation, and no counter-offer... and then quickly scurried off to fight yet another no-hoper

and btw, Golovkin did not... "offer him more than his mandated purse split when he could have just walked away?" in 2016... he did everything he could to kill that fight... they put up sooooo many roadblocks that it cost them a fight date... and all they had to pay Jacobs to get the deal done was 250k

they literally lost a fight-date over $250k... which tells the WHOLE story

don't try and spin that rubbish to me, like you do to those who don't know whats up... I can easily find the "Quillin money" links, I probably have them book-marked... and I can easily find links for the mandatory negotiation in 2016 that dragged out for months

all I am saying is... the guys who criticize Canelo today, for under-paying opponents that he WILL actually fight... but who happily looked the other way yesterday, as Golovkin made ridiculous lowball offers to Saunders and Jacobs... and then blurted out excuses to justify why Golovkin simply had to select scrub-after-scrub... should STFU

if the person that I just described is not you... then you have nothing to worry about... right?

one more thing...

making a VERY low offer... with NO negotiation... and no counter-offer... and then quickly running off to sign a underwhelming/undeserving opponent... is NOT how you make a fight

name 1 other unification fight that got made under those conditions

[kafkod]

FACT: Golovkin did not throw a take-it-or-leave-it lowball offer to Kell Brook... like he threw a take-it-or-leave-it lowball offer to Jacobs and Saunders... because, Golovkin actually wanted to fight Kell Brook

FACT: you 100% know that I was referring to the first offer to Jacobs, back in 2015... not the offer that was under mandate in 2016... you lying ass-hole...

what they did to Saunders... is EXACTLY what they had already done to Jacobs when they offered him "Quillin money" in 2015... they threw a horrible lowball that they knew would kill the fight... with NO negotiation, and no counter-offer... and then quickly scurried off to fight yet another no-hoper

and btw, Golovkin did not... "offer him more than his mandated purse split when he could have just walked away?" in 2016... he did everything he could to kill that fight... they put up sooooo many roadblocks that it cost them a fight date... and all they had to pay Jacobs to get the deal done was 250k

they literally lost a fight-date over $250k... which tells the WHOLE story

don't try and spin that rubbish to me, like you do to those who don't know whats up... I can easily find the "Quillin money" links, I probably have them book-marked... and I can easily find links for the mandatory negotiation in 2016 that dragged out for months

all I am saying is... the guys who criticize Canelo today, for under-paying opponents that he WILL actually fight... but who happily looked the other way yesterday, as Golovkin made ridiculous lowball offers to Saunders and Jacobs... and then blurted out excuses to justify why Golovkin simply had to select scrub-after-scrub... should STFU

if the person that I just described is not you... then you have nothing to worry about... right?

one more thing...

making a VERY low offer... with NO negotiation... and no counter-offer... and then quickly running off to sign a underwhelming/undeserving opponent... is NOT how you make a fight

name 1 other unification fight that got made under those conditions

Say that again ... I dare you!

[aboutfkntime]

Say that again ... I dare you!

I copied most of that from a reply to you the last time we discussed this

you were lying and " forgetting " things back then as well

I keep all that stuff in my muppet folder

[Ray*]

It’s not always about money. Weight clause?

[stealthradon]

FACT: Golovkin did not throw a take-it-or-leave-it lowball offer to Kell Brook... like he threw a take-it-or-leave-it lowball offer to Jacobs and Saunders... because, Golovkin actually wanted to fight Kell Brook

FACT: you 100% know that I was referring to the first offer to Jacobs, back in 2015... not the offer that was under mandate in 2016... you lying ass-hole...

what they did to Saunders... is EXACTLY what they had already done to Jacobs when they offered him "Quillin money" in 2015... they threw a horrible lowball that they knew would kill the fight... with NO negotiation, and no counter-offer... and then quickly scurried off to fight yet another no-hoper

and btw, Golovkin did not... "offer him more than his mandated purse split when he could have just walked away?" in 2016... he did everything he could to kill that fight... they put up sooooo many roadblocks that it cost them a fight date... and all they had to pay Jacobs to get the deal done was 250k

they literally lost a fight-date over $250k... which tells the WHOLE story

don't try and spin that rubbish to me, like you do to those who don't know whats up... I can easily find the "Quillin money" links, I probably have them book-marked... and I can easily find links for the mandatory negotiation in 2016 that dragged out for months

all I am saying is... the guys who criticize Canelo today, for under-paying opponents that he WILL actually fight... but who happily looked the other way yesterday, as Golovkin made ridiculous lowball offers to Saunders and Jacobs... and then blurted out excuses to justify why Golovkin simply had to select scrub-after-scrub... should STFU

if the person that I just described is not you... then you have nothing to worry about... right?

one more thing...

making a VERY low offer... with NO negotiation... and no counter-offer... and then quickly running off to sign a underwhelming/undeserving opponent... is NOT how you make a fight

name 1 other unification fight that got made under those conditions

You know that Brook was/is a bigger star than Jacobs, right?

So that would justify it, wouldn't it?

Remember your boy, Cotto? Who was so fúcking of fighting GGG, he paid him 700k, not to fight. Except he didn't. He wouldn't pay him. He didn't pay him. Except when the law got involved. Then he did.

[kafkod]

I copied most of that from a reply to you the last time we discussed this

you were lying and " forgetting " things back then as well

I keep all that stuff in my muppet folder

Aka, your brain.

[aboutfkntime]

You know that Brook was/is a bigger star than Jacobs, right?

So that would justify it, wouldn't it?

Remember your boy, Cotto? Who was so fúcking of fighting GGG, he paid him 700k, not to fight. Except he didn't. He wouldn't pay him. He didn't pay him. Except when the law got involved. Then he did.

NO... no, I did not know that

and at middleweight... he was a total nothing

nope, that... " Kell Brook is a star " stuff, is utter bollocks... you completely made that up

before Porter, nobody knew Brook... after Porter, Brook did nothing

that... " Kell Brook is a star " myth... comes from idiot Golovkin fans

FACT: Golovkin did not throw a take-it-or-leave-it lowball offer to Kell Brook... like he threw a take-it-or-leave-it lowball offer to Jacobs and Saunders... because, Golovkin actually wanted to fight Kell Brook

[stealthradon]

NO... no, I did not know that

and at middleweight... he was a total nothing

nope, that... " Kell Brook is a star " stuff, is utter bollocks... you completely made that up

before Porter, nobody knew Brook... after Porter, Brook did nothing

that... " Kell Brook is a star " myth... comes from idiot Golovkin fans

FACT: Golovkin did not throw a take-it-or-leave-it lowball offer to Kell Brook... like he threw a take-it-or-leave-it lowball offer to Jacobs and Saunders... because, Golovkin actually wanted to fight Kell Brook

You know that Brook was a replacement, right? After Eubank bailed, because he forgot his pen.
Brook was offered the exact same as Eubank.

[TonyGe]

NO... no, I did not know that

and at middleweight... he was a total nothing

nope, that... " Kell Brook is a star " stuff, is utter bollocks... you completely made that up

before Porter, nobody knew Brook... after Porter, Brook did nothing

that... " Kell Brook is a star " myth... comes from idiot Golovkin fans

FACT: Golovkin did not throw a take-it-or-leave-it lowball offer to Kell Brook... like he threw a take-it-or-leave-it lowball offer to Jacobs and Saunders... because, Golovkin actually wanted to fight Kell Brook

Golovkin wanted to fight Eubank Junior not Brook. Eddie Hearn handled the negotiations. He got so frustrated when Eubank Sn. balked at signing the offer Hearn made that the negotiations ended. Hearn contacted Brook who was a star in GB and offered him the same money. Brook jumped at the chance to fight him. Golovkin told everyone that Brook wasn't a Middleweight and by his body language and verbal language it was obvious he wasn't happy that the Eubank fight fell through.
Here's what Saunders had to say about the offer according to SB nation.


"I could earn that money against someone else. They are offering life changing money but it's not just about that because it would be a big risk for me."

[aboutfkntime]

You know that Brook was a replacement, right? After Eubank bailed, because he forgot his pen.
Brook was offered the exact same as Eubank.

Golovkin wanted to fight Eubank Junior not Brook. Eddie Hearn handled the negotiations.

FACT: Golovkin did not throw a take-it-or-leave-it lowball offer to Kell Brook (or Eubank)... like he threw a take-it-or-leave-it lowball offer to Jacobs and Saunders... and the reason why is clearly obvious... because, Golovkin actually wanted to fight Kell Brook (or Eubank)