Comments Thread For: Mayweather Admits He Barely Trained For McGregor Fight

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Alrighty then, we've got some cats that believe McGregor was in control.

Yet another reminder




Then those same cats talking about Floyd not standing when it's a risky opponent. Leaving this here

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Again no it didnt expose anything mac sucks as a boxer and fell into a trap none of the guys u just stated would have fallen for that except William's plus floyd was over 40 when he " fought " mac. But I agree length would give floyd problems but William's is a poor example he had no power and fought on the inside 90% of the time . Did floyd avoid him....yes maybe but there were bigger fights to be made ,but does it make it okay ?? No. That is a miss for floyd . Forrest was not avoided ,floyd was at lightweight when vernon was a top notch player for ....2 fights . But forrest would have given floyd hell I agree 110%. As for winky wright also not a miss just because wright called him out .floyd was at 140 and was fighting the Corleys of the world when wink was the man at 154 . Again I believe wright was ALL WRONG for floyd . But he didnt avoid this man. Again iam not even really a floyd fan I just call it like I see it. U make valid points these fighters aside from William's would give floyd hell but he didnt avoid all of them . Even Williams high volume would have troubled floyd but I believe floyd would have walked him down. Also this debate was about mcgregor and you saying he was outboxing floyd and if he were a boxer he would have been a nightmare for ...now we are off topic but that's okay I like debating with you , you dont argue .

Say what? How would jmw Winky Wright look calling lw/jww Floyd out. Floyd actually called Winky Wright out. Sent a contract and the whole nine, then Floyd backed out of the fight. That was a total duck. He would have got mad props for just stepping in the ring with a prime Winky Wright, but Floyd he wasn't built like that. Winky wasn't raked thru the coals enough, but Oscar was.

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Alrighty then, we've got some cats that believe McGregor was in control.

Yet another reminder




Then those same cats talking about Floyd not standing when it's a risky opponent. Leaving this here

low risk, and no risk boxing, at its best....

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Say what? How would jmw Winky Wright look calling lw/jww Floyd out. Floyd actually called Winky Wright out. Sent a contract and the whole nine, then Floyd backed out of the fight. That was a total duck. He would have got mad props for just stepping in the ring with a prime Winky Wright, but Floyd he wasn't built like that. Winky wasn't raked thru the coals enough, but Oscar was.

Winky moved to middle right after the mosely fights bro that was 2005 floyd was still at 140 . Floyd calling out middleweights was for clout and long after what we are talking about . He would be giving up too much weight . Show me a link where the contract was sent to winky when floyd just got to 140 when winky was at jr middle like u claimed . Again iam no floyd hugger he had misses but the only long tall fighters he missed where William's and margarito and neither fought long behind jabs like u have referenced he avoided . I get that you are saying that style was all wrong for floyd but I think u are reaching sir . Show me a credible source showing floyd sent wink a contract when winky was a jr middle .....floyd was jr welter and hadnt even won a title when winky moved to middle . He won it one month after winky fought Trinidad at middle.

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Winky moved to middle right after the mosely fights bro that was 2005 floyd was still at 140 . Floyd calling out middleweights was for clout and long after what we are talking about . He would be giving up too much weight . Show me a link where the contract was sent to winky when floyd just got to 140 when winky was at jr middle like u claimed . Again iam no floyd hugger he had misses but the only long tall fighters he missed where William's and margarito and neither fought long behind jabs like u have referenced he avoided . I get that you are saying that style was all wrong for floyd but I think u are reaching sir . Show me a credible source showing floyd sent wink a contract when winky was a jr middle .....floyd was jr welter and hadnt even won a title when winky moved to middle . He won it one month after winky fought Trinidad at middle.

4) … but he has ducked some

Somewhat surprisingly, the two fighters who can claim Mayweather ducked them and have those claims stand up to scrutiny often don't get mentioned when people discuss who Mayweather supposedly ducked.


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In 2005, Mayweather called out Winky Wright, the lineal and formerly undisputed 154lbs title holder who had just beaten Felix Trinidad at 160lbs and could point to two wins over Mosely. Wright agreed and within days had his team in the Top Rank (Floyd's promoters at the time) offices hammering out the details.

The details were hammered out: the bout would be at 154lbs but weigh-ins would be the morning of the bout rather than the day before and Wright would not be allowed to gain more than eight pounds between weighing in and the start of the contest. But Mayweather and Bob Arum suddenly pulledout, demanding changes to the purse-split and other such things until the bout was dead in the water.

Mayweather was brave to challenge the naturally larger Wright, a man basically in his prime and with a style that would have been awkward for Mayweather. But when you call someone out and agree all of the details, why then suddenly pull out and take on Sharmba Mitchell instead? That's ducking. Whether it was Arum or Mayweather who pulled the plug (Wright's promoter Shaw has blamed both Arum and Mayweather, depending on who was asking) it doesn't matter; it was a duck.

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Interesting. You have respect for Shane even though he avoided Floyd when Shane was in his prime and the bigger earner.

It was so bad that Larry Merchant asked Shane point blank on TV will you fight Floyd and he said no and used a toothache as the reason. Yet you then complain that Floyd, "hid too much behind his a side advantage".

ODH fought BHop at 157, a 3 lb CW, less than the 2 lb CW you complain Floyd fought Canelo at.

Dude this just shows how incredibly biased you really are.

In 2007-08, Cotto was the next best welterweight in the world behind Mayweather. A thrilling fighter during his 140lbs title run, he had moved up in weight and easily disposed of Quintana, smashed the over-matched Urkal, stopped Judah and then beaten a resurgent Mosley in an excellent bout. He was by any definition the most deserving fighter to face Mayweather and, with the rabid Puerto Rican fans behind him, he was a legitimate superstar who brought serious financial clout as well. There was no reason for the bout not to be made. But Mayweather instead signed for a pointless rematch with De La Hoya.
Seemingly this wasn't the end of the world for the bout. After all, Mayweather would surely beat De La Hoya and Cotto only had to get through Alfonso Gomez (which he did with ease) and then the two would match up. It was obvious. Then Mayweather "retired" instead of taking the second De La Hoya boutOf course Mayweather did eventually face Cotto and he should be given some credit for doing it at 154lbs. But that Cotto had been given a beating by Margarito and his controversial gloves, had gone through a war with Clottey and been cut to pieces by Pacquiao. Put simply, he wasn't the same fighter.

The 2007-08 version of Cotto with his pressuring inside game, killer hook and snapping jab was a hugely intriguing and challenging bout for Mayweather. The 2012 version may have been good enough to pose Mayweather some problems but he wasn't the same. Mayweather ducked Cotto. There's no other way to put it.
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Interesting. You have respect for Shane even though he avoided Floyd when Shane was in his prime and the bigger earner.

It was so bad that Larry Merchant asked Shane point blank on TV will you fight Floyd and he said no and used a toothache as the reason. Yet you then complain that Floyd, "hid too much behind his a side advantage".

ODH fought BHop at 157, a 3 lb CW, less than the 2 lb CW you complain Floyd fought Canelo at.

Dude this just shows how incredibly biased you really are.

Keith Thurman beats bloodied Luis Collazo, calls out Floyd Mayweather

TAMPA, Fla. -- Keith Thurman, hailed by many as boxing's next big star, had to survive rocky moments in the fifth round but otherwise dominated Luis Collazo to retain his welterweight world title in an eighth-round knockout victory before a raucous hometown crowd Saturday night in the debut of Premier Boxing Champions on ESPN at the USF Sun Dome.

Collazo, who badly hurt Thurman with a body shot in the fifth round, suffered a terrible cut over his right eye in the seventh. He had blood pouring from the cut after the round and said he could not see out of the eye, so the fight was stopped one second into the eighth.




Thurman retained his 147-pound belt for the second time and then called out pound-for-pound king and recognized welterweight world champion Floyd Mayweather, who is looking for a Sept. 12 opponent for what he has repeatedly said will be the final fight of a brilliant, so-far-unbeaten career.

"I'm a young, strong champion, Floyd. Come get it," Thurman said. "I'm undefeated like you, baby. Come take my 0 baby! Come take my 0! I'm ready. I'm ready."
Now the question is: Will Mayweather take the bait and fight Thurman? He is clearly the most deserving welterweight other than Amir Khan -- both of whom are, like Mayweather, with adviser and PBC creator Al Haymon, meaning there are none of the political obstacles that so often bog down the making of major fights.

But it seems unlikely that Thurman will get his wish to fight Mayweather.

A few days ago, Leonard Ellerbe, CEO of Mayweather Promotions, told ESPN.com, "Keith Thurman is a very, very good young fighter who is extremely talented, but he doesn't understand how the game goes. Ain't nobody [on Team Mayweather] thinking about Keith Thurman.

"He's a terrific fighter and he's supposed to call out Floyd Mayweather. He wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't. But everything we want we don't always get."

[The Big Dunn]

In 2007-08, Cotto was the next best welterweight in the world behind Mayweather. A thrilling fighter during his 140lbs title run, he had moved up in weight and easily disposed of Quintana, smashed the over-matched Urkal, stopped Judah and then beaten a resurgent Mosley in an excellent bout. He was by any definition the most deserving fighter to face Mayweather and, with the rabid Puerto Rican fans behind him, he was a legitimate superstar who brought serious financial clout as well. There was no reason for the bout not to be made. But Mayweather instead signed for a pointless rematch with De La Hoya.
Seemingly this wasn't the end of the world for the bout. After all, Mayweather would surely beat De La Hoya and Cotto only had to get through Alfonso Gomez (which he did with ease) and then the two would match up. It was obvious. Then Mayweather "retired" instead of taking the second De La Hoya boutOf course Mayweather did eventually face Cotto and he should be given some credit for doing it at 154lbs. But that Cotto had been given a beating by Margarito and his controversial gloves, had gone through a war with Clottey and been cut to pieces by Pacquiao. Put simply, he wasn't the same fighter.

The 2007-08 version of Cotto with his pressuring inside game, killer hook and snapping jab was a hugely intriguing and challenging bout for Mayweather. The 2012 version may have been good enough to pose Mayweather some problems but he wasn't the same. Mayweather ducked Cotto. There's no other way to put it.
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Keith Thurman beats bloodied Luis Collazo, calls out Floyd Mayweather

TAMPA, Fla. -- Keith Thurman, hailed by many as boxing's next big star, had to survive rocky moments in the fifth round but otherwise dominated Luis Collazo to retain his welterweight world title in an eighth-round knockout victory before a raucous hometown crowd Saturday night in the debut of Premier Boxing Champions on ESPN at the USF Sun Dome.

Collazo, who badly hurt Thurman with a body shot in the fifth round, suffered a terrible cut over his right eye in the seventh. He had blood pouring from the cut after the round and said he could not see out of the eye, so the fight was stopped one second into the eighth.




Thurman retained his 147-pound belt for the second time and then called out pound-for-pound king and recognized welterweight world champion Floyd Mayweather, who is looking for a Sept. 12 opponent for what he has repeatedly said will be the final fight of a brilliant, so-far-unbeaten career.

"I'm a young, strong champion, Floyd. Come get it," Thurman said. "I'm undefeated like you, baby. Come take my 0 baby! Come take my 0! I'm ready. I'm ready."
Now the question is: Will Mayweather take the bait and fight Thurman? He is clearly the most deserving welterweight other than Amir Khan -- both of whom are, like Mayweather, with adviser and PBC creator Al Haymon, meaning there are none of the political obstacles that so often bog down the making of major fights.

But it seems unlikely that Thurman will get his wish to fight Mayweather.

A few days ago, Leonard Ellerbe, CEO of Mayweather Promotions, told ESPN.com, "Keith Thurman is a very, very good young fighter who is extremely talented, but he doesn't understand how the game goes. Ain't nobody [on Team Mayweather] thinking about Keith Thurman.

"He's a terrific fighter and he's supposed to call out Floyd Mayweather. He wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't. But everything we want we don't always get."

None of this relates to your initial post that I responded to proving how biased you were in posting you respected guys that did the same thing as the a side that Floyd did.

Then you made a comment about ODH "moving up" to justify your position. I proved that false, illustrating your bias and hatred.

Now you are resorting to spamming the thread with pieces of articles that are not in any way related to your initial post that I responded to.

You have shown just how much hatred drives you. It's fine not to like Floyd. You however keep trying to justify that hatred and each time you do, you get caught lying.

It is abundantly clear the real reason you hate him is because he beat the guys you liked. Just say that and move on.

Stop pretending you have a valid reason fro your hate and jealousy of Floyd.

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None of this relates to your initial post that I responded to proving how biased you were in posting you respected guys that did the same thing as the a side that Floyd did.

Then you made a comment about ODH "moving up" to justify your position. I proved that false, illustrating your bias and hatred.

Now you are resorting to spamming the thread with pieces of articles that are not in any way related to your initial post that I responded to.

You have shown just how much hatred drives you. It's fine not to like Floyd. You however keep trying to justify that hatred and each time you do, you get caught lying.

It is abundantly clear the real reason you hate him is because he beat the guys you liked. Just say that and move on.

Stop pretending you have a valid reason fro your hate and jealousy of Floyd.

I already responded to all of your false accusations. That's all you really good for is putting words in people's mouths.

I told you I respect guys who made fights with guys who presented totally adverse style matchups, and went on to point out to you examples of fighters who meet that criteria. I can't help it if you are mad that I don't put Floyd in that category.

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4) … but he has ducked some

Somewhat surprisingly, the two fighters who can claim Mayweather ducked them and have those claims stand up to scrutiny often don't get mentioned when people discuss who Mayweather supposedly ducked.


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In 2005, Mayweather called out Winky Wright, the lineal and formerly undisputed 154lbs title holder who had just beaten Felix Trinidad at 160lbs and could point to two wins over Mosely. Wright agreed and within days had his team in the Top Rank (Floyd's promoters at the time) offices hammering out the details.

The details were hammered out: the bout would be at 154lbs but weigh-ins would be the morning of the bout rather than the day before and Wright would not be allowed to gain more than eight pounds between weighing in and the start of the contest. But Mayweather and Bob Arum suddenly pulledout, demanding changes to the purse-split and other such things until the bout was dead in the water.

Mayweather was brave to challenge the naturally larger Wright, a man basically in his prime and with a style that would have been awkward for Mayweather. But when you call someone out and agree all of the details, why then suddenly pull out and take on Sharmba Mitchell instead? That's ducking. Whether it was Arum or Mayweather who pulled the plug (Wright's promoter Shaw has blamed both Arum and Mayweather, depending on who was asking) it doesn't matter; it was a duck.

Thats a quote where is the credible source ?? Did u leave that out on purpose ?? Cool mayweather called out a middleweight who was still undisputed at 54 . When he was 140 lbs and had just beaten gatti . How about he fights kosta tszyu next the real miss . Not winky wright who was way bigger than floyd at the time . It's not even logical at the time . No one considered that a duck they wanted him to fight tszyu but instead he moved up and fought Kostas leftovers at 47 . Tszyu is who u should be naming but that doesnt fit your long fighters floyd avoided debate TO PROVE THAT MCGREGORS PERFORMANCE SHOWED THAT THESE GUYS COULR HAVE BEATEN FLOYD ?? Cmon man . You are all over the place . Iam out of here. This is boring now. Until next time friend . Altho I had fun here and u did make some valid points . Respect . You just lost yourself in your own debate tho sir .