Originally posted by j.razor
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Golovkin made all his supporters fools yet we still have some defending him.
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Originally posted by AKAcronym View PostAs I've asked before, if the demand of 164 was an indication that Golovkin and his team didn't actually want the fight, wouldn't Cotto's and Canelo's demand of anything around 155 be just the same? Cotto was willing to fight Sergio at 159 and Geale at 157 and Canelo could miraculously jump to 164.5 for Chavez but 160 was asking for too much?
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Originally posted by TonyGe View PostIf everyone follows the weight rules as laid out by the Alphabet groups then there is a somewhat level playing field. That way we know who is the best I that weight class(if they actually fight). It's not perfect but it's consistent Boxers can get big money for cutting weight and I can't blame them. I don't consider catchweights fights for titles legitimate. I've felt that way since Donny Lalonde fought SRR for two titles in one fight. It was a great fight and I'm glad I saw it but I didn't consider Leonard a true 175 pound champion when he beat Lalonde. That's my own personal view.
I think when Crawford was fighting at 135, he used to weigh in 156 on fight night.
Anyone with functioning eyes can see Hurd and that guy who beat Williams last aren't true 154 pounders, they should fight at lightheavy.
By the way, I don't recognize the crooked belt orgs.
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Originally posted by j.razor View Postlil g ducked Lara, B-Hop, S.O.G., D-Chenko (at the time), Jermall & Andrade.
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Originally posted by j.razor View PostNothing EVER changed with golovkin, he ducked & dodged people to get to Nelo & it worked with the media & weak fan bases help. He's STILL doing the SAME THING
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Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View PostGood post. I can respect your points.
I think when Crawford was fighting at 135, he used to weigh in 156 on fight night.
Anyone with functioning eyes can see Hurd and that guy who beat Williams last aren't true 154 pounders, they should fight at lightheavy.
By the way, I don't recognize the crooked belt orgs.
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Originally posted by AKAcronym View PostOne thing people tend to forget about a prime Golovkin is his ability to cut/injure guys. Multiple opponents throughout the years were stopped due to cuts and injuries or had cuts before ultimately getting stopped. That kind of power is always a game changer. He's still heavy handed enough to cut guys, as he did with Both Canelo and Derev but that snap that he used to have made his punches so much more devastating.
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Originally posted by Citizen Koba View PostThe bigger question would be why do you care?
I still like the dude even though I couldn't be bothered watching his shittier fights and have been deeply critical of his opponent selection in a few cases. Fighters say shit that ends up not happening on the regular and good fights don't happen all the time - more often than not in fact, and I sure as fuck wouldn't stop following another fighter because he fell short of his goals or even didn't try as hard as he might to get 'em, so why would I particularly care about Golovkin? More interestingly why would you? You ain't even a fan...
I like watching the dude fight when he got someone decent in front of him and that's pretty much all that matters to me... all the rest can be spun as you please. You say he was lying from the start, I reckon his priorities just changed, though TBH I don't care much either way.
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