Still no response from Charlo...5 days and counting

[rickJen]

This is what happens when outsiders are dealing with PBC Secret Society. First off, the main character Haymon is inaccessible to the media. When offers of fights are turned down in the PBC house, the visitors are left to fend for themselves never knowing whether to talk to the media about what went on. Dela Hoya got fed up with the constant cries of Canelo ducking Charlo when in fact it's the exact opposite. He decided to come out and tell the real story.

The thead I made,

Why didn't the Garcia vs Garcia happen?

No one knows why. We can only speculate or
put bits of crumbs together and make our own conclusion.
First, Danny wanted too much money and wanted it on PPV.
Mikey got tired of waiting, waiting and decided to accept DAZN's offer.
Danny is fighting Reckach.
Mikey is fighting Jessie Vargas.

[Ray*]

It’s killing the sport for me.

The sad reality is the fans that are actually defending it. I can support a boxer without defending BS like that.

[Ray*]

As much as I appreciate what Floyd gave to the sport, his tactics and timings of match-ups lend an underhanded sheen to his career. I accept he was very smart but I feel that he is largely responsible for the now-explicit 'Health First' and 'Money Talks' approaches to the game. Being cynical, I can accept that these elements have always been present in boxing to some degree, but I just cannot imagine old-time greats being so outright diva-ish.

Seems as though the promoters, networks, managers, sanctioning bodies--i.e. all the non-fighters--seems like what they have to say is just as important nowadays, it's bull5hit

I guess it’s evolution, because at least Mayweather fought a lot of tough competition, and didn’t start his calculating thing until he became “Money”.

Even then still he understood who was the A-side and when he isn’t the A-side, he took the short end of the stick when he had to. And his numbers spoke for themselves.

Now we have those who are trying to use his blueprint, but they aren’t willing to fight any rivals or tough competition, they aren’t willing to negotiate with any rivals, they would rather turn down better paydays (Prizefighters) for a lower payday against low competition.

I didn’t see Mayweather doing those things, for Mayweather it was “If it makes dollars then it makes sense”

For these guys it’s, fake it until it becomes real..

[The Big Dunn]

What organization test did Manny refuse? None. So where is your proof he needed to test?

USADA. Both fighters would’ve tested. Not just manny. So there was no proof Floyd needed to test either, same as when Tyson asked Holyfield.

You are aggressively asking about 2009 and manny in a thread about charlo in 2020 because you know there is no proof of the offer .

[The Big Dunn]

No, not a PBC fighter. The PBC fighter who has a history of talking big, but never delievering. Loma and Canelo have the resumes tgat prove they don't avoid (most of the time, looking at you Canelo) challenges so yeah they would get the benefit of the doubt. All charlo has is his twitter account and he seems to have abandoned it for some weird reason

But If you don't think him being quiet doesn't raise questions that cool by me

Again why can’t he be quiet when odh went a year without saying anything?

[jqSide]

If the offer was true and rejected, what is he supposed to say?

If they're not true, then that's the time to expect him to come out mad as hell denying the accusations.

[Vasyl’s dad]

USADA. Both fighters would’ve tested. Not just manny. So there was no proof Floyd needed to test either, same as when Tyson asked Holyfield.

You are aggressively asking about 2009 and manny in a thread about charlo in 2020 because you know there is no proof of the offer .

USADA is not a boxing organization. Try again. Manny refused no boxing organization or state commission. Nobody cared if Floyd tested or not. His tests were always phony anyways.
As for Charlo, I don’t care about proving if the offer was real. He’s been blowing smoke for years about beating this guy and that guy with significant fights at nearly 30 years of age. What offers has he sent to anyone? None.
So you come off as hypocritical when demanding to see this offer, but had no qualms about saying Manny had to test, without any proof he ever cheated.

[Offline]

The sad reality is the fans that are actually defending it. I can support a boxer without defending BS like that.

I agree. I would be rooting for Charlo if he took the fight but with the whole other side of the street nonsense going on with Bud it’s hard to give a pass to Charlo.

[Boxing_1013]

Again why can’t he be quiet when odh went a year without saying anything?

It just looks bad man...consider a similar analogy.

Let's say Frank saw Bill a year ago...1 month ago, Frank says that when he saw Bill, Bill was cheating on his wife.

Frank is an unsavory character...generally not very trustworthy.

Still, people hear Frank's claim and say 'Wow, that's crazy'.

And then they expect Bill to come in and slap that comment down and correct the record.

Bill doesn't say anything or deny it...so now people are wondering if it really is true.

Basically, when someone comes out and makes a strong claim about you, if it isn't true, you would probably scream from the highest mountain that it is BS and would instead put out the real version of events.

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[Boxing_1013]

If he turned down $10 million for Canelo then Charlo either 1) is getting bad advice or 2) is making/set to make a lot more per fight than I realize.

I also think that an offer of $10 million could have been a smooth one from Canelo and co...for example, maybe they knew Charlo and co. wouldn't take that amount (for whatever reason), so they offered it.

I still think Charlo is high risk/low reward and that most guys don't really want to fight him...but at the same time, he comes out looking bad here and in the Andrade situation.

And even with GGG, he should imo have been much more vocal when that fight was mandated to make it clear who was really not wanting the fight.

It seems like when push comes to shove he doesn't really want to fight anyone himself...and I can't believe he would turn down $10 million for Canelo...I mean what else could he be waiting for.
..I thought he has been holding out for that fight, and that he would have jumped at $7 million or so and taken it...even $5 million I would expected him to take it!

So yes I am skeptical of ODLH's claims...but at the same time, Charlo's silence is, and has been on these other issues, deafening.