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    UK PPV market is flopping cuz IMO the fights are fake.From Wilder to Bivol, IMO, FAKE

    There hasn't been a truly memorable fight in ages. I used to think that's cuz the younger guy kept ducking the older one until he was too old to deliver a memorable fight, or other theories. Now I believe it's because the fights are fake.

    I went back and studied, and I believe Canelo-Kovalev, Klitschko-Fury, May-Pac, May-Mcgregor, Wilder-Fury, Wilder-Ortiz, Canelo-GGG, GGG-Jacobs, Loma-Rigo, Loma-Walters, Mayweather-Cotto, Mayweather-Canelo, Pac-Thurman, Bivol-Joe Smith, Bivol-Pascal, AJ-Ruiz and many others were all fake scripted fights with both fighters in on it and probably both fighters getting paid on the side.

    That's just my opinion and speculation, I can't prove it. It's especially funny because for years I said GGG's jab still looks prime, but his power punches look slow. I told myself that's because the jab is the shortest straightest punch. Now I believe it's because the jab is the one punch they throw at near full power in fake fights because it's much less damaging, on a punch by punch basis, than power punches. So I saw something from the start that fits with my theory that the fights are fake, I just didn't consider what the real reason IMO is until now.

    And there were other things that made me su****ious years ago about scripted fights, but I overlooked them. Now they all fit. But, it's just my opinion.

    I think that's why the fights are so boring now. I think that's also why there is so little urgency from fighters to make the fights in their primes. Yes Loma has called out Tank a few times, but he seems pretty unbothered by Tank's refusal to take up the invitation, and he keeps the invitation open basically indefinitely even though it only favors Tank to keep waiting, at his expense. Same with GGG, he called out Canelo but never that forcefully.

    IMO they are happy to wait because it's all fake anyway, and really is ALL about the money not just partially about the money and partially about legacy. Pacquiao, GGG, Loma, they really are all, IMO, the same as Floyd, they just play nicer characters.

    I also think that's the reason for the east euro invasion of boxing. These guys come from poverty in post-communist nations where the culture is still "do what you're told, get money on the side. Don't do what you're told, get shot." There may be more people in those cultures willing to take dives and lie to the world just to stop living in hell than there are in the US. Also, I believe the genetic argument in sports was always bull****. IMO American boxers were the best at one time because American scientists created the best PEDs. That's why they were better than the east euros back in the day, IMO. What am I getting at? IMO, that's why the east euros are so good now, equal to the Americans. Now that IMO ones are identified who are willing to take dives, IMO they are given access to top grade PEDs as well, while the authorities are IMO told to turn a blind eye, and this is what makes them look so spectacular and exciting and generates fan interest in their fake fights.

    What does fan interest mean? More bets on the fights. And if you can control the exact outcome of the fight ahead of time, because it's fake, then you can take most the bettors money every time.

    If the top names in the sport werent part of the inside club willing to fix fights, then IMO, 90% of them would get busted by the FBI for PEDs and that would be the end of it. Just my opinion though. They'd all get the Jarrell Miller treatment, but IMO even he is probably part of the club. Who was Miller's replacement? Andy Ruiz in IMO the biggest fake fight of the year, the outcome that few bettors say coming, and the fight to put DAZN on the map. Now Jarrell Miller will IMO get a big reward with a big ESPN deal. Getting "caught" so blatantly by VADA helps to legitimize VADA, when IMO it's not legit, and created controversy and notoriety for Miller. Now Fury vs Miller will be a big fight, whereas before, it would have been a tuneup mismatch. Miller has beaten no one, never showed top heavyweight ability at all. There's nothing different in Fury vs Miller as there was in Fury vs Tom Schwartz other than, IMO, the machine is behind Miller. IMO they use these controversies now to make stars of the big boxers because their IMO fake fights are not interesting enough to do the trick on their own.

    Just like IMO Wilder-Fury was fake and now Fury is being rewarded with big WWE checks. Just different levers in the same machine IMO. Just like the DAZN Wilder-AJ negotiations were used to bring attention to both DAZN and Wilder, and provide Wilder with another episode in his "stand up to the racist white system" soap opera to draw in fans, that system in this case having the perfect figurehead of Eddie Hearn, another IMO basically actor in this fake loosely organized WWE business called Boxing.

    That's just my opinion of how I see it, I don't claim to be able to prove it or that it's guaranteed factual down to the last detail. It's my opinion based on observing the game as an outsider these last few years.

    Think about it. Fury is the slickest boxer at heavyweight. Wilder's boxing skills are poor. Who the F would turn down a guaranteed 100 mil to then risk fighting the best southpaw, Luis Ortiz, and then Tyson Fury, for far less money? "That's because Wilder is such a badass" yeah OK, he has a sick daughter at home but he's such a badass he's going to turn down $100 mil guaranteed to instead make 10 mil to "bet on himself" not once, but in two 50-50 fights?

    It's just my opinion, but I think the reason it really happened is there was no risk at all because the fights were fake. IMO Wilder knew that 100 mil, and a lot more, would still be there in 2020 or 2021 because IMO, he knows he wouldn't lose in the meantime, because IMO, his fights are fake. And that's just one example. Canelo and GGG's teams were talking about a trilogy before the first fight even happened. Also IMO, the Boxing Establishment probably wants fights like Wilder-Joshua or Wilder-Fury on American PPV, as long as they're still getting buys, another reason you could guess the DAZN Wilder negotiations were fake from the start.

    IMO they're keeping their biggest American stars on US PPV, because they drive the most PPV sales, and then they're putting the big foreign stars on a subscription service, DAZN, to corner the market on fans of those fighters who might not drive as many PPV sales. Yes Canelo and GGG are on DAZN, and they had a big PPV, but that's the only example of that. Floyd, Paquiao, Wilder, Spence, Mikey are all on Fox PPV.

    So IMO they organized the sport and the networks in a way to generate the most money, and the promoters are just figureheads, actors, who provide a nonstop soap opera drama narrative as to why fights are being marinated for 5 years, and why this guy fights on this network but not that network, when really that's all it is, bull****, to go along with the actors for boxers and the IMO fake fights.
    Last edited by Boxing Logic; 11-30-2019, 05:07 AM.

    #2
    You are the IMO heavyweight champ

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      #3
      Originally posted by dot.c.eh View Post
      You are the IMO heavyweight champ
      Imagine him hitting someone in the head with that giant post, Wilder is featherfisted in comparison

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        #4
        Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
        There hasn't been a truly memorable fight in ages. I used to think that's cuz the younger guy kept ducking the older one until he was too old to deliver a memorable fight, or other theories. Now I believe it's because the fights are fake.

        I went back and studied, and I believe Canelo-Kovalev, Klitschko-Fury, May-Pac, May-Mcgregor, Wilder-Fury, Wilder-Ortiz, Canelo-GGG, GGG-Jacobs, Loma-Rigo, Loma-Walters, Mayweather-Cotto, Mayweather-Canelo, Pac-Thurman, Bivol-Joe Smith, Bivol-Pascal, AJ-Ruiz and many others were all fake scripted fights with both fighters in on it and probably both fighters getting paid on the side.

        That's just my opinion and speculation, I can't prove it. It's especially funny because for years I said GGG's jab still looks prime, but his power punches look slow. I told myself that's because the jab is the shortest straightest punch. Now I believe it's because the jab is the one punch they throw at near full power in fake fights because it's much less damaging, on a punch by punch basis, than power punches. So I saw something from the start that fits with my theory that the fights are fake, I just didn't consider what the real reason IMO is until now.

        And there were other things that made me su****ious years ago about scripted fights, but I overlooked them. Now they all fit. But, it's just my opinion.

        I think that's why the fights are so boring now. I think that's also why there is so little urgency from fighters to make the fights in their primes. Yes Loma has called out Tank a few times, but he seems pretty unbothered by Tank's refusal to take up the invitation, and he keeps the invitation open basically indefinitely even though it only favors Tank to keep waiting, at his expense. Same with GGG, he called out Canelo but never that forcefully.

        IMO they are happy to wait because it's all fake anyway, and really is ALL about the money not just partially about the money and partially about legacy. Pacquiao, GGG, Loma, they really are all, IMO, the same as Floyd, they just play nicer characters.

        I also think that's the reason for the east euro invasion of boxing. These guys come from poverty in post-communist nations where the culture is still "do what you're told, get money on the side. Don't do what you're told, get shot." There may be more people in those cultures willing to take dives and lie to the world just to stop living in hell than there are in the US. Also, I believe the genetic argument in sports was always bull****. IMO American boxers were the best at one time because American scientists created the best PEDs. That's why they were better than the east euros back in the day, IMO. What am I getting at? IMO, that's why the east euros are so good now, equal to the Americans. Now that IMO ones are identified who are willing to take dives, IMO they are given access to top grade PEDs as well, while the authorities are IMO told to turn a blind eye, and this is what makes them look so spectacular and exciting and generates fan interest in their fake fights.

        What does fan interest mean? More bets on the fights. And if you can control the exact outcome of the fight ahead of time, because it's fake, then you can take most the bettors money every time.

        If the top names in the sport werent part of the inside club willing to fix fights, then IMO, 90% of them would get busted by the FBI for PEDs and that would be the end of it. Just my opinion though. They'd all get the Jarrell Miller treatment, but IMO even he is probably part of the club. Who was Miller's replacement? Andy Ruiz in IMO the biggest fake fight of the year, the outcome that few bettors say coming, and the fight to put DAZN on the map. Now Jarrell Miller will IMO get a big reward with a big ESPN deal. Getting "caught" so blatantly by VADA helps to legitimize VADA, when IMO it's not legit, and created controversy and notoriety for Miller. Now Fury vs Miller will be a big fight, whereas before, it would have been a tuneup mismatch. Miller has beaten no one, never showed top heavyweight ability at all. There's nothing different in Fury vs Miller as there was in Fury vs Tom Schwartz other than, IMO, the machine is behind Miller. IMO they use these controversies now to make stars of the big boxers because their IMO fake fights are not interesting enough to do the trick on their own.

        Just like IMO Wilder-Fury was fake and now Fury is being rewarded with big WWE checks. Just different levers in the same machine IMO. Just like the DAZN Wilder-AJ negotiations were used to bring attention to both DAZN and Wilder, and provide Wilder with another episode in his "stand up to the racist white system" soap opera to draw in fans, that system in this case having the perfect figurehead of Eddie Hearn, another IMO basically actor in this fake loosely organized WWE business called Boxing.

        That's just my opinion of how I see it, I don't claim to be able to prove it or that it's guaranteed factual down to the last detail. It's my opinion based on observing the game as an outsider these last few years.

        Think about it. Fury is the slickest boxer at heavyweight. Wilder's boxing skills are poor. Who the F would turn down a guaranteed 100 mil to then risk fighting the best southpaw, Luis Ortiz, and then Tyson Fury, for far less money? "That's because Wilder is such a badass" yeah OK, he has a sick daughter at home but he's such a badass he's going to turn down $100 mil guaranteed to instead make 10 mil to "bet on himself" not once, but in two 50-50 fights?

        It's just my opinion, but I think the reason it really happened is there was no risk at all because the fights were fake. IMO Wilder knew that 100 mil, and a lot more, would still be there in 2020 or 2021 because IMO, he knows he wouldn't lose in the meantime, because IMO, his fights are fake. And that's just one example. Canelo and GGG's teams were talking about a trilogy before the first fight even happened. Also IMO, the Boxing Establishment probably wants fights like Wilder-Joshua or Wilder-Fury on American PPV, as long as they're still getting buys, another reason you could guess the DAZN Wilder negotiations were fake from the start.

        IMO they're keeping their biggest American stars on US PPV, because they drive the most PPV sales, and then they're putting the big foreign stars on a subscription service, DAZN, to corner the market on fans of those fighters who might not drive as many PPV sales. Yes Canelo and GGG are on DAZN, and they had a big PPV, but that's the only example of that. Floyd, Paquiao, Wilder, Spence, Mikey are all on Fox PPV.

        So IMO they organized the sport and the networks in a way to generate the most money, and the promoters are just figureheads, actors, who provide a nonstop soap opera drama narrative as to why fights are being marinated for 5 years, and why this guy fights on this network but not that network, when really that's all it is, bull****, to go along with the actors for boxers and the IMO fake fights.
        What has any of that got to do with UK PPVs?

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          #5
          Retarrrrrd post of the year.

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              #7
              Good post. Anything is possible. I've recently figured out that most major league sports are scripted and rigged including the most obvious one, the NFL. I've always maintained that boxing wasn't scripted because these guys are so competitive that they really do think they're better than the rest and they don't need other fighters to throw the fight for them to win.

              But I can see at the very top level it could be scripted but it's impossible for everyone to be in on it. Certain fighters would probably be in on it for the money but not all.

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                #8
                You might say AJ-RUIZ perhaps, but no way was Canelo-Kovalev scripted.

                Not in a hundred millions millions years.

                Lost all credibility there IMO.

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                  #9
                  Read it all, dont agree with it and still dont know what it has to do with the UK?

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