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Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View PostI think I'm calling it what it is. I'm weighing GGG against the same standards the greats were weighed against. Yes he gets credit for beating guys he was supposed to beat. Those guys (outside Vanes and Brook) all got beat up by others as well. 3 fights where he wasn't the clear favorite and all were arguably losses even if I agree with the documented results.
Yes, I do hold it against him that he hasn't beaten clean a guy that's considered top level.
No one really did to most of those opponents what G did...Ishida a good example...went 12 rounds with Pirog and Paul Williams just before his GGG fight...GGG rolls over him in 3...that by itself is not going to put a guy in the HOF...but when you have a lot of stories like that it is impressive imo.
And also as mentioned prior...GGG outlanded Danny 9-2-1...Canelo 10-1-1...and then 8-3-1...if people really want to try and say he didn't win all 3 of those fights it is just a big stretch imo...and kind of illustrates that the people who hate on him a lot don't really keep it real with their criticisms of him.
I do think it is fair to say that relative to expectations...G 'lost' those fights...he was expected to KO Danny, but no one thought Danny's chin would hold up, and it has been holding up somehow...if Danny's chin were to hold up I would expect an 8-4 type win for GGG with a KD which is what I saw.
Nelo (1st fight) and Danny both just came to survive and go 12 rounds imo...so it would be harder to score a KO that way anyway...but one could argue that if GGG was as great as advertised he should have scored at least 1 KO there...and then in fight 2 for Canelo to hold the center of the ring with GGG, well we hadn't seen that before and was impressive for Nelo.
I think it is fair to slight GGG for maybe not looking at good as advertised and dominating more...but to say he didn't win those 3 fights clean...I mean yeah I just don't really get that lol...and again when people are incapable of giving him credit there, it just makes valid criticisms of him fall flat.
He's like ***** lol..people go so overboard with the hate on him that it ends up making some people support him even more.
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Originally posted by j.razor View Post, all just for golovkin who hasn't proved himself to get the Nelo payday in the 1st place.
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Originally posted by j.razor View PostThis is how we feel. Floyd is my daddy so I would protect him no matter wut
Everyone knows Floyd got busted up by Errol Spence around that time and didn't want that work...some champion...good boxer and great promoter but never really challenged himself in his Money May days.
Originally posted by j.razor View PostFOH with that dumb shet. The ONLY time you talk about T.B.E. with Pvssy-G in the same post is when you label complete opposites.
If GGG was black and Floyd was white you would have completely different views on them lol...you're a ho to me, no offense though man...all love
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Originally posted by MDPopescu View PostGGG was after Cotto and Canelo (at 160) only after 2015...
... but before that (i.e. 2012-2014), GGG was after: Sturm, Martinez, Geale, Barker (champs at 160); FMJr, Canelo (champs at 154); Chavez Jr., Froch, Ward (at 168)
PLUS he ducked Lara & B-Hop.
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Originally posted by ruedboy View PostLoeffler says that a Charlo fight doesn't make sense financially and the haters say Golovkin is ducking Charlo.
Alvarez puts it right out there that he wants no more business with GGG and he doesn't like him so he won't fight and the diva fans scream "... no duck!"
Typical diva dementia.
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