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    #51
    Originally posted by Ray* View Post
    You could tell most American don’t really travel, so it would make zero difference here. Just having some conversation with them and you can tell how ignorant they are really. Hopefully the venue doesn’t change, it’s American mentality that need to change. They sound backward most of the time. And yes I have an American brother. Same mentality (Backwards).
    I’ve been a business owner for close to 30 years, so I travel frequently and I’ve been in many different countries already also.

    My post was speaking in general with respect to US fight fans. And when I was in the gym this afternoon, I saw a video where Bernard Hopkins and Oscar said the same thing. I get it why the venue is there. Again, I just don’t think most Americans would travel over there to see it.
    Last edited by markther; 08-11-2019, 12:31 PM.

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      #52
      Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
      I don't think team Joshua is worried about U.S fans more then profit and still going global. The U.S market here doesn't reflect Joshua ,who wil and always was going to be a U.K based fighter with fights here and there outside the U.K.

      Joshua also has a very strong following in Saudi Arabia ,hes a global star more then he is here .
      True and I wouldn’t necessarily disagree with anything you said. I would say though that Joshua should care about being more global from a monetary aspect future wise. And a fight and a win in Mexico, Ruiz’s turf, would have been better and put him on a different career trajectory based on the additional attention and respect he would have gotten. The fact is, he still hasn’t won a major fight yet on US soil or really anywhere else but the UK.
      Last edited by markther; 08-11-2019, 12:41 PM.

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        #53
        Originally posted by markther View Post
        I’ve been a business owner for close to 30 years, so I travel frequently and I’ve been in many different countries already also.

        My post was speaking in general with respect to US fight fans. And when I was in the gym this afternoon, I saw a video where Bernard Hopkins and Oscar said the same thing. I get it why the venue is there. Again, I just don’t think most Americans would travel over there to see it.
        The fact that you as an American has experienced travelling is shocking, you sound so soft and ignorant. No a bad thing, which pointing out how you seems from your post.

        This is a major event, I have never been to Saudi Arabia nor do I want to, but whenever we have heard of major events happening in countries that aren’t “Cool” we always have this sort of overreactions.

        And looking back in history those events always go through without any issues, all this “Am scared for my family BS” is plain ignorant. Am always scared to come to America due to guns and stuffs but I had to visit my equally American/Ignorant brother six times (Arizona/Scottsdale), whilst he has been to the UK once in 20 years.

        Not sure why you guys are soooo soft, must be something in the water.

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          #54
          Originally posted by markther View Post
          True and I wouldn’t necessarily disagree with anything you said. I would say though that Joshua should care about being more global from a monetary aspect future wise. And a fight and a win in Mexico, Ruiz’s turf, would have been better and put him on a different career trajectory based on the additional attention and respect he would have gotten. The fact is, he still hasn’t won a major fight yet on US soil or really anywhere else but the UK.
          A fight in Mexico would be great for us ,but way to much money on the line to what AJ built up and how his staus is really on the line here. A loss would force him back to the end of the line and would be another 2 years for title contention with less then extraordinary fights. It would hurt the division any way you look at it, we all want Wilder vs AJ …..well half of us on here not wishing a loss for Joshua..

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            #55
            Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
            It won't stop him, the sanctioned bodies will just put them up for grabs and Joshua will get them one by one while Ruiz bleeds money with a court ordering him to resolve it while sanctioning bodies force him to vacate and possibilities of not being able to fight unless it's in non champion contests, the fat boy will only hurt himself financially.
            Originally posted by Pennsauken1 View Post
            Are we talking about the fat boy who knocked out the U.K. fraud????
            BWaHaahaHA!!!

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              #56
              Originally posted by Ray* View Post
              The fact that you as an American has experienced travelling is shocking, you sound so soft and ignorant. No a bad thing, which pointing out how you seems from your post.

              This is a major event, I have never been to Saudi Arabia nor do I want to, but whenever we have heard of major events happening in countries that aren’t “Cool” we always have this sort of overreactions.

              And looking back in history those events always go through without any issues, all this “Am scared for my family BS” is plain ignorant. Am always scared to come to America due to guns and stuffs but I had to visit my equally American/Ignorant brother six times (Arizona/Scottsdale), whilst he has been to the UK once in 20 years.

              Not sure why you guys are soooo soft, must be something in the water.
              First of all, I didn’t say anything about Americans or myself being “scared” to travel there. I personally haven’t been scared to travel anywhere. But there are some known issues over there and have been for “many” years. There is a reason why this past June, the U.S. military began moving equipment and hundreds of troops back to a military base in Saudi Arabia that the U.S. deserted more than 15 years ago, according to two U.S. officials familiar with that deployment.

              And this is what you said, “This is a major event, I have never been to Saudi Arabia, nor do I want to.”

              You have no credibility calling anyone soft based on your own comment here above... at least I served in the military and have family in Saudi Arabia right now....YOU ARE SOFT...LMAO!!!
              Last edited by markther; 08-11-2019, 01:05 PM.

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                #57
                The REALEST shit in this thread:

                Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                Why is this being labeled a "money grab"? Isn't every fight a money grab? Hasn't boxing been corrupt in the United States for a century?

                When a fighter boxes in Vegas are they supporting prostitution, ****, *** trafficking, child *** trafficking, pimping, drugs and ********?
                Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
                America also has travel warnings for much of Mexico.
                Originally posted by Tyistall View Post
                Again, you idiots are acting like b!tches and complaining about the site of a fight that you aren't even going to attend. Most of you wouldn't go even if it was in your city.
                Originally posted by sayf View Post
                They're not politicians, so people need to stop with all the BS politics. The fact is, most countries have bloody hands, but some countries just have better PR.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                  A fight in Mexico would be great for us ,but way to much money on the line to what AJ built up and how his staus is really on the line here. A loss would force him back to the end of the line and would be another 2 years for title contention with less then extraordinary fights. It would hurt the division any way you look at it, we all want Wilder vs AJ …..well half of us on here not wishing a loss for Joshua..
                  Also true...I still want that AJ and Wilder fight also.

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                    #59
                    When Kaepernick kneeled many of these same clowns argued we should keep politics out of sport.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                      The fact that you as an American has experienced travelling is shocking, you sound so soft and ignorant. No a bad thing, which pointing out how you seems from your post.

                      This is a major event, I have never been to Saudi Arabia nor do I want to, but whenever we have heard of major events happening in countries that aren’t “Cool” we always have this sort of overreactions.

                      And looking back in history those events always go through without any issues, all this “Am scared for my family BS” is plain ignorant. Am always scared to come to America due to guns and stuffs but I had to visit my equally American/Ignorant brother six times (Arizona/Scottsdale), whilst he has been to the UK once in 20 years.

                      Not sure why you guys are soooo soft, must be something in the water.
                      And Americans would rather be soft than broke....LMAO.... Kindly tell me where the U.K. is on this list. And while your at it, tell me why Arizona is the 14th g@yest population in the entire US which includes your brother....LMAO!!!!!!!



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