Originally posted by larryxxx..
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If Floyd was a cherry picker then what are your current fighters picking??
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Originally posted by Thraxox View PostLarry usually makes a thread like this if he gets triggered about a thread on Floyd.
And also to answer Larry's question. It's because Floyd never fought a Prime A-level fighter at their best when there were several walking around.
And at 130/135 Diego was B+/A- level
The only fighter Floyd couldve fought that was "A" level was Pacquiao. And that fight happened later due to drug testing discrepancies and then Manny losing to JMM. Canelo is too far off in age for that fight to have happened when he entered his prime.
De La Hoya and Mosley didnt fight Floyd in their respective primes. That was their choice as THEY were the PPV attraction, not Floyd.
Hatton was undefeated although clearly not A level...maybe C+/B-
JMM is an A level opponent..at 135. Nonetheless it was a good performance.
Floyd's win over Genaro Hernandez was excellent although it was probably as Genaro was exiting his prime.
The only fights Floyd missed were:
Tsyzu and Pac sooner (both sides screwed that up). Not a single other "A" opportunity
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Originally posted by OCPancho View PostDon't matter.
Leonard fought Hagler and was 3-1 underdog going in the week of the fight .
He was also off for years .
That would be like Floyd coming back now and fighting someone and be a 3-1 underdog.
No matter what weight division .
Floyd has never been 3-1 underdog EVER.
Pac and Hopkins have been .
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Originally posted by hmc87 View PostDiego Corrales wasnt prime? I mean Diego was literally favored and Floyd was underdog in that fight.
And at 130/135 Diego was B+/A- level
The only fighter Floyd couldve fought that was "A" level was Pacquiao. And that fight happened later due to drug testing discrepancies and then Manny losing to JMM. Canelo is too far off in age for that fight to have happened when he entered his prime.
De La Hoya and Mosley didnt fight Floyd in their respective primes. That was their choice as THEY were the PPV attraction, not Floyd.
Hatton was undefeated although clearly not A level...maybe C+/B-
JMM is an A level opponent..at 135. Nonetheless it was a good performance.
Floyd's win over Genaro Hernandez was excellent although it was probably as Genaro was exiting his prime.
The only fights Floyd missed were:
Tsyzu and Pac sooner (both sides screwed that up). Not a single other "A" opportunity
Floyd could have fought Winky at a catchweight too.
Winky was willing to do it .
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Originally posted by OCPancho View PostFloyd was 6-5 favorite on betting night .
Floyd could have fought Winky at a catchweight too.
Winky was willing to do it .
It's a stretch to say Winky was A level although he was definitely a solid B/B+
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Originally posted by hmc87 View PostThe last fight Floyd ever had where he was the betting UNDERDOG was Diego Corrales.
It's a stretch to say Winky was A level although he was definitely a solid B/B+
Winky would have had a great chance in outjabbing floyd all night .
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Originally posted by OCPancho View PostNot on fight night .
Winky would have had a great chance in outjabbing floyd all night .
Winky was fighting at 160 in 2005. Floyd was fighting at 140 in 2005.
When would this fight have taken place and at what weight class?
The only REAL "A" MISSES on Floyd's career as Tsyzu and Manny 2009-2012 (again that wasnt just Floyd's fault). Tsyzu was a miss though - no question about it
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Originally posted by hmc87 View PostWinky was fighting at 160 in 2005. Floyd was fighting at 140 in 2005.
When would this fight have taken place and at what weight class?
The only REAL "A" MISSES on Floyd's career as Tsyzu and Manny 2009-2012 (again that wasnt just Floyd's fault). Tsyzu was a miss though - no question about it
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Originally posted by OCPancho View Post
I liked Wright, but he was fairly basic. I do believe Floyd wouldve beaten him in 2005 because he was still in his athletic prime then. He was very, very fast. Tough fight for sure, but I'm not disappointed it never happened.
Winky campaigned at 160 during 2005 and Floyd at 140. And you're legitimately suggesting the 140lb fighter "ducked" the Middleweight.
Might want to think that one over
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