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why does vada refuse to comment wether they tested pacquaio or not lol

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    #31
    What I get from the article is that Pacquiao was and is enrolled with VADA for 24/7 365 days voluntary random drug testing anytime.

    Whereas the Thurman fight’s drug testing was carried out under NSAC and not VADA and that is why Dr. Goodman stated that VADA was not doing the tests. However NSAC hired the same people that VADA hires to carry out the tests for VADA style type tests.

    Seems like there has been some kind of personality or professional conflict between Dr. Goodman and NSAC since she left the organization.

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      #32
      Originally posted by lacson View Post
      What I get from the article is that Pacquiao was and is enrolled with VADA for 24/7 365 days voluntary random drug testing anytime.

      Whereas the Thurman fight’s drug testing was carried out under NSAC and not VADA and that is why Dr. Goodman stated that VADA was not doing the tests. However NSAC hired the same people that VADA hires to carry out the tests for VADA style type tests.

      Seems like there has been some kind of personality or professional conflict between Dr. Goodman and NSAC since she left the organization.
      Gibson literally said the guys that show up say “We are VADA/representing VADA” why Broner said “we are doing Vada” vs Pacquiao and Why they are saying VADA vs Thurman. Actual VADA/Goodman refuses to acknowledge it though, it doesn’t even show up on their website.

      The whole thing is curious.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan View Post
        Have you ever discussed this VADA testing about the other boxers or is 1 man only worth discussing when it comes to PED testing for you?
        You are avoiding the point of my post which answers this question.

        When the discussion was floyd or other boxers that defeated manny like jmm, manny fans claimed no Vada = PED use.

        Now that manny has wins without Vada that is being thrown in their faces. Stop acting like manny is being persecuted unfairly. He is simply being held to the standard his fans created.

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          #34
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          You are avoiding the point of my post which answers this question.

          When the discussion was floyd or other boxers that defeated manny like jmm, manny fans claimed no Vada = PED use.

          Now that manny has wins without Vada that is being thrown in their faces. Stop acting like manny is being persecuted unfairly. He is simply being held to the standard his fans created.
          Avoiding? Don’t try to twist it. What was my point of discussion before you quoted me? You’ve once again proved my point right. You’re so obsessed with Manny alone when it comes to VADA testing. Why aren’t you as enthusiastic to discuss VADA testing when it comes to other boxers (didn’t you just mention other PBC boxers)? In fact you singled out Manny too many times that you forgot he’s got a dance partner in the fight. How about Thurman? I never see you mentioning him when it comes to this. Yet, I’m the one avoiding now when my point of discussion is this, which you’re refusing to answer.

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            #35
            He's photo not on the last boxers testes list

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              #36
              Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan View Post
              Avoiding? Don’t try to twist it. What was my point of discussion before you quoted me? You’ve once again proved my point right. You’re so obsessed with Manny alone when it comes to VADA testing. Why aren’t you as enthusiastic to discuss VADA testing when it comes to other boxers (didn’t you just mention other PBC boxers)? In fact you singled out Manny too many times that you forgot he’s got a dance partner in the fight. How about Thurman? I never see you mentioning him when it comes to this. Yet, I’m the one avoiding now when my point of discussion is this, which you’re refusing to answer.
              Manny is far more we’ll known than Thurman and is discussed much more than Thurman. He has a history when it comes to PED testing that Thurman doesn’t. Again it was his fans and not Thurman’s that came up with no Vada =PED Use. As such he is getting discussed more than Thurman.

              As for other boxers, I don’t believe that no Vada =PED use so I wouldn’t bring that up with other boxers since their fan base didn’t create that standard.

              If a pbc or top rank fighter doesn’t use Vada, I don’t think it means they are dirty so I wouldn’t bring it up.

              If you would be honest it’s not manny being persecuted unfairly, its not obsession or avoiding other fighters. It’s manny being singled out because his fans created the standard and posters are now checking to see if they will apply the standard to Manny.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan View Post
                Have you ever discussed this VADA testing about the other boxers or is 1 man only worth discussing when it comes to PED testing for you?
                Question for you- are you one of the manny fans that posted or believes that no Vada =PED use?

                If so, did you say manny was dirty when he didn’t use Vada?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                  VADA already cleared that up before the fight. They were not involved with the testing for this fight. The commission did the testing.
                  Originally posted by .WesternChamp. View Post
                  manny got tested by vada right after the fight. there's a video floating around.
                  Originally posted by The Problem View Post
                  This is the confusion im talking about lol.... ive read tons of articles/comments im stil not sure wether or not he was tested by vada or wtf is going on. Someone from vada needs to make a statement
                  Originally posted by .WesternChamp. View Post
                  he is signed up in the cbp to be tested anytime. after the fight, he was tested. someone in the video said that it's vada. im not sure who it was but i know that manny got tested right after the fight. the video is posted on instagram. im trying to see if i can save the video off instagram and post it on here.
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  You are avoiding the point of my post which answers this question.

                  When the discussion was floyd or other boxers that defeated manny like jmm, manny fans claimed no Vada = PED use.

                  Now that manny has wins without Vada that is being thrown in their faces. Stop acting like manny is being persecuted unfairly. He is simply being held to the standard his fans created.
                  ... VADA was not even able to catch Whyte as being on PEDs...

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                    Manny is far more we’ll known than Thurman and is discussed much more than Thurman. He has a history when it comes to PED testing that Thurman doesn’t. Again it was his fans and not Thurman’s that came up with no Vada =PED Use. As such he is getting discussed more than Thurman.

                    As for other boxers, I don’t believe that no Vada =PED use so I wouldn’t bring that up with other boxers since their fan base didn’t create that standard.

                    If a pbc or top rank fighter doesn’t use Vada, I don’t think it means they are dirty so I wouldn’t bring it up.

                    If you would be honest it’s not manny being persecuted unfairly, its not obsession or avoiding other fighters. It’s manny being singled out because his fans created the standard and posters are now checking to see if they will apply the standard to Manny.
                    Sounds like you’re persecuting Manny based on his fans only not Manny himself and his actions. That’s childish play imo

                    So you’re just here to piss off his fans by using their ‘standard’ and not actually looking for the truth by using the standard that you truly believe in?

                    I’m not sure about which history you’re pointing out. All I see throughout are allegations and speculations. Just all talk here and there. No results

                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                    Question for you- are you one of the manny fans that posted or believes that no Vada =PED use?

                    If so, did you say manny was dirty when he didn’t use Vada?
                    Lame and ridiculous standard. I don’t know why you keep on relating this standard to Manny fanbase. Count me out if it is. Let’s just try to make it simple.

                    No proof = not guilty unless proven otherwise (many are actually butthurt by this standard)

                    It’s gonna be the accuser’s burden to show proof, not the accused

                    Since you’re goal is to use people’s words/standards against their own, I hope you use this standard whenever you discuss with me

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                      #40
                      An Asian man taking out the best fighters in the world... just deal with it u racist shythead.

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