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    #11
    I thought Wilder was a bit too tense in their first fight by trying to land the home run swing and Tyson Fury could easily sense it as he was more relaxed. Wilder needs to come in more relaxed and have fun and let the fight come to him. Then his punches will land at will.

    Don't rush the shots. He just needs to take his time and that right hand will land. Also, try fighting off the back foot for a change, in order to land more jabs and to force Fury to fight off the front foot, in order to offset and disrupt his rhythm and timing.

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      #12
      Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
      I thought Wilder was a bit too tense in their first fight by trying to land the home run swing and Tyson Fury could easily sense it as he was more relaxed. Wilder needs to come in more relaxed and have fun and let the fight come to him. Then his punches will land at will.

      Don't rush the shots. He just needs to take his time and that right hand will land. Also, try fighting off the back foot for a change, in order to land more jabs and to force Fury to fight off the front foot, in order to offset and disrupt his rhythm and timing.
      Well Wilder is a special case because unlike almost all power punchers/boogeyman, he has shown that he can knock you out anytime during the 12 rounds. Any time. If Fury smells blood he is supposed to finish him while he can. He isn't going to systematically break down Wilder physically OR mentally as the fdight progresses, Wilder is gonna stick to the plan he had in round 1, 2,3, 10, 11 etcx. and that is to put you to sleep.

      36 minutes of Wilder trying to kill you. No bytching out, no backing down, just hoping and trying for that KO....for 36 minutes. Let's see if Fury's coach tries something different

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        #13
        Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post
        Wilder’s problem is when he can’t find openings he waits to look for them rather than create the openings and it results in giving away rounds from inactivity and it showed badly against fury...but we have seen it before with other fighters. It’s a terrible flaw in his game and the most serious flaw he has, I believe it will be the reason we will see losses on his record....he just isn’t active enough.
        And Fury will be fitter, sharper, and more active in the rematch.

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          #14
          Originally posted by 'b' View Post
          Well Wilder is a special case because unlike almost all power punchers/boogeyman, he has shown that he can knock you out anytime during the 12 rounds. Any time. If Fury smells blood he is supposed to finish him while he can. He isn't going to systematically break down Wilder physically OR mentally as the fdight progresses, Wilder is gonna stick to the plan he had in round 1, 2,3, 10, 11 etcx. and that is to put you to sleep.

          36 minutes of Wilder trying to kill you. No bytching out, no backing down, just hoping and trying for that KO....for 36 minutes. Let's see if Fury's coach tries something different
          Fury didn't move around the ring much at all in the fight. I think he knew he wouldn't have the legs to keep it up for 12 rounds. That why he spent so much time right in front of Wilder, slipping and rolling, giving Deontay many opportunities to nail him with a big punch.

          I expect him to use his legs a lot more in the rematch, circling and moving in and out of range like he did against Wlad. Wilder, like Wlad, won't have a clue how to deal with that, and I can see him responding by rushing in when he gets frustrated. Trying to bullrush a sharp, defensively adept, counter puncher like Fury is not a good idea. He will punish you for it.
          Last edited by kafkod; 06-21-2019, 12:46 PM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by kafkod View Post
            Fury didn't moving around the ring much at all in the fight. I think he knew he wouldn't have the legs to keep it up for 12 rounds. That why he spent so much time right in front of Wilder, slipping and rolling, giving Deontay many opportunities to nail him with a big punch.

            I expect him to use his legs a lot more in the rematch, circling and moving in and out of range like he did against Wlad. Wilder, like Wlad, won't have a clue how to deal with that, and I can see him responding by rushing in when he gets frustrated. Trying to bullrush a sharp counter puncher like Fury is not a good idea. He will punish you for it.
            Fury near his best should handle Wilder. I used to be a big fan of Fury, but then the whole drug cheat thing happened, all the talk, fighting cans since return etc.

            I'm not completely sold that he is 100% committed to boxing.

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              #16
              I've got Wilder landing the money shot earlier in the rematch. Fury will be fitter and more active, but that doesn't ensure he doesn't get caught before the final bell rings. Wilder will know how to touch Fury this time around based on film study. He doesn't have to learn new punches, just throw different ones that we've seen him throw before. All it takes is one mistake from Fury and goodnight. Fitness and activity doesn't guarantee the perfection needed to survive Wilder.

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                #17
                Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
                I think it's the other way around and I think that is one reason why they didn't jump into an immediate rematch.

                It's Wilder that has Fury timed, well enough to put him down twice in the last 4 rounds.

                Here's something else...Fury had better stop gaining weight- last thing he needs to be is a more stationary target.
                Quite right. I actually think its Wilder who will improve more in this case as he would have gotten a real good look at Fury and gotten used to timing him. Fury will need to be a lot better than before I reckon.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by 'b' View Post
                  If Tyson had a real boxing coach, he'd have finished Wilder - but Ben Davidson/Davison is a novice and a yes man and a buddy of Tyson's.

                  I love how having little Ben Dover as his coach has made the relationship between him and Warren awkward, his promoters and the guys making the big money don't want that little chit kid messing up their cash cow - but Fury is so loyal.

                  The look on Freddie Roach's face said it all during the Wilder fight - he was just thinking "Is this kid gonna shut the hell up?" and "Oh...my...fuccing....heck...what did he just tell Tyson to do?" and "Wow what a fuccing idiot!".

                  I think everyone around Fury wants BenDover gone, he's a liability but Tyson is just too much of his 'buddy' to see it.
                  Can't agree more, yes man Davison is a mistake.

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                    #19
                    You are incorrect Frankie, the Gypsy Fiend has Jack Reiss’s number

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                      #20
                      Wilder's trainer should have him working on going to the body. That would slow down some of Fury's movement. In fact, he should just focus on touching the body only through jabs and hooks for the first 5 rounds.

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