Comments Thread For: Report: Site For Canelo-Golovkin III Holding Up Negotiations

[hitking]

If you think beating a guy he already beat and a year older is more important than his stated goal of holding all the MW titles to enhance his legacy, then your just a fkn idiot.

You never did answer my question about who Andrade has beaten that makes him such a great notch in Canelo’s. Come on man, give me Andrade’s top five wins.

[TonyGe]

So ur saying u don’t know if the fighters threw the fight, but at the same time ur saying that because of what the promoters and trainers said about a potential trilogy u believe that the fighters could have potentially thrown the fight to set up a trilogy? The trainers and promoters also said their fighter would knock the other out too. So if the screw was in then why would those involved say things that are odd enough that someone like you would pick up on it to think the fix was in? U saw the fights. Was it fixed or not? U can’t have it both ways. U can’t expect anyone to respect ur opinion if u can’t even say if u can tell if a fight was fixed or not? U don’t even have a real opinion. All I know is u think it was potentially fixed because of what people said? Christ they fought in the ring, tell us what u saw in there?!! It was in front of millions? If u potentially believe in the fix then tell us how they potentially pulled it off in front of all of us? How does it work then? Just show ur math. U can’t make allegations without sum backup? Who drops hints that they are lying? If u can believe it then tell us why you do?

What part of
"I'm not saying the boxers threw the fights or held back"
Don't you understand.
How plain can I be???
It was the promotors and managers that said that as I clearly stated in the next part of my response. I'm saying Sanchez, Loeffler (don't know about Canelos managers) and Oscar were lobbying Vegas and any other interested party that it would be just peachy with them. So what was going on was both Oscar, Loeffler and Golovkin's trainer were OK with having one or both of their guys lose. I know you are going to disagree. Personally I thought it was odd or su****ious.

[BOXING-SCRIBE]

Doesn’t matter about Byrd, it’s still 3 judges. Casuals probably don’t know how to finalize decisions. You need at least two judges for a win.

Canelo’s punch stats are set in stone. The controversy will forever follow GGG with his mere jab output with most of them missing just to look busy. Now if Canelo didn’t have answers for punch stats then it would be a case, but Trella and Moretti proved it was close.

Canelo doesn’t even get credit for his second style. Canelo’s boxing technique will be studied for generations to come. GGG not much because he just coasted at 160 forever. We’ll never know how his skills would’ve played at higher weights. Damn shame and waste of time. It’s called puss e.

It was a close fight, one that I saw Canelo losing. I understand that is the best of 3 to win a match, but the issue is that had she had it 115-113, that's fine,but 118-110 is a bit ridiculous

[QballLobo]

You never did answer my question about who Andrade has beaten that makes him such a great notch in Canelo’s. Come on man, give me Andrade’s top five wins.

I already addressed that. Learn some reading comprehension. Andrade’s value as an opponent isn’t his record, it’s his belt. When you list off Canelo’s accomplishments 20 years from now holding all 4 alphabet titles is one he wants it to include. If GGG beat Andrade and took that strap then Canelo would have no have reason to fight him.
Don’t think about it too hard, you might hurt yourself.

[Jab jab boom]

The Whitaker, Chavez fight was competitive. I think Whitaker won, but I would not call it a robbery. A robbery is when one fighter beats another from pillar to post and is not declared the winner. I think that Trinidad lost to De La Hoya, but it was close so I don't argue that De La Hoya was robbed. Similarly, the Jacobs v. Golovkin fight was close. Some believe Jacobs should have been given the decision, but he was not "robbed."

I didn't find Chavez vs Whitaker to be competitive after 4 rounds. The other 2 I agree were close fights. The biggest thing with Oscar vs tito was that Oscar won his rounds big, but legend will have you believe it was a wipe out when even HBOs Lederman scored it a draw. Oscar should've won though.

[stuff jones]

So much GGG hate it's absurd.

How are people siding with a known PED cheat?

[hitking]

I already addressed that. Learn some reading comprehension. Andrade’s value as an opponent isn’t his record, it’s his belt. When you list off Canelo’s accomplishments 20 years from now holding all 4 alphabet titles is one he wants it to include. If GGG beat Andrade and took that strap then Canelo would have no have reason to fight him.
Don’t think about it too hard, you might hurt yourself.

I read and comprehend pretty well. It’s just what you’re saying is so ****** it’s hard to grasp that you’re trying to make the argument. Outta one side of your ass, you’re basically admitting that Andrade is the textbook definition of what a paper champion is. Then outta the other side of your ass, you’re trying to argue that he’s a legacy enhancing fight for what some people think is an ATG fighter. It’s beyond ******.

Answer me this. If belts are so important. Why is it that Floyd and Manny are the consensus best two fighters of their era, and neither of them ever held all the ABC trinkets in any division they fought in? Hell, some people criticize Floyd for unification fights he had with Canelo, Maidana, and even Manny. Roy Jones is arguably the best fighter of his era. And he was largely criticized during his reign as light heavyweight champion for his level of competition. Mostly due to the fact that he held every belt imaginable and was forced to fulfill mandatories that nobody wanted to see in order to remain “undisputed champion.”

At the end of the day your argument is ****** and shows that you’re a novice fight fan. And any seasoned fan can see that.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Which Mexican fighter has beaten an Eastern Euro?

Start with Salido..

[TonyGe]

You have the right to your own opinion!
But don't ignore facts on ggg.
How many p4p fighters has he fought other than Canelo who was ranked p4p top 10 (canelo only being consensus p4p top 10 in the 2nd fight?


I won't list all the written and recorded statements ggg and team gave over him being the greatest mw of all time,etc.
Ggg career is familiar to Kovalev. Good champ, exciting fighter to see destroy weak opposition.
And stop with ggg being money. Let's see a non Canelo card where ggg pulls in the "money" you are talking about, where's he's shown to be a draw like prime pac, Mayweather, Canelo. At least with Joshua, whatever the criticism is, he is a real draw. Ggg not so much.

I won't list all the written and recorded statements ggg and team gave over him being the greatest mw of all time,etc.



Why don't you list, as you claim Golovkin said he's the greatest middleweight of all time. Just one time. Your lying and you know it.

[QballLobo]

I read and comprehend pretty well. It’s just what you’re saying is so ****** it’s hard to grasp that you’re trying to make the argument. Outta one side of your ass, you’re basically admitting that Andrade is the textbook definition of what a paper champion is. Then outta the other side of your ass, you’re trying to argue that he’s a legacy enhancing fight for what some people think is an ATG fighter. It’s beyond ******.

Answer me this. If belts are so important. Why is it that Floyd and Manny are the consensus best two fighters of their era, and neither of them ever held all the ABC trinkets in any division they fought in? Hell, some people criticize Floyd for unification fights he had with Canelo, Maidana, and even Manny. Roy Jones is arguably the best fighter of his era. And he was largely criticized during his reign as light heavyweight champion for his level of competition. Mostly due to the fact that he held every belt imaginable and was forced to fulfill mandatories that nobody wanted to see in order to remain “undisputed champion.”

At the end of the day your argument is ****** and shows that you’re a novice fight fan. And any seasoned fan can see that.

Your problem is your getting caught up in your own emotions.
You may think it’s ****** and that’s great for you. Canelo has stated multiple times his goal is to hold all the titles at one time.
Mayweather and Pacquiao either didn’t think that was important or didn’t care to take fights to do it.
Whether you agree or not is irrelevant.
So for him fighting Andrade on his terms and getting that last title may be important than beating a guy he already beat. His money is guaranteed either way so he gets to choose what he wants. Crying like a butthurt female on the rag won’t change that.