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EXPLOSIVE NEWS! Abel Sanchez: “GGG was terrified of Andre Ward.”
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Originally posted by _Maxi View PostDon't get wet, there's no video.
And Golovkin wanted to fight Ward in 2013.
"Andre Ward is too much for me"
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Originally posted by Luilun View PostCanelo is the only fighter in history to supply a hair sample which can go back years and he came clean
Some drugs may indeed stay in the hair follicle or strand for months (not sure about years) but the simple fact is not enough research has been done on Clenbuterol testing in hair to know how long you'd expect to see a positive for - preliminary results suggest a coupla months in high melanin (darker) hair but with high variability... kicker is no one knows what to expect from red hair types because red hair contains a different type of melanin and many drug reactions are radically different in redheads.
I'll leave you with what WADA had to say on the matter of Clenbuterol testing...
The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) concede that they currently have no scientific means to distinguish whether failed drug tests for clenbuterol have resulted from contaminated meat or genuine doping.Last edited by Citizen Koba; 06-14-2019, 01:27 PM.
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Bitter talk from Abel because GGG deported him back to the minor leagues and looking for work in the Home Depot parking lot. Anyone who isn't a clown knows that Ward "retired" to avoid the pressure of facing GGG. It's not even open for debate, it's just a plain hard fact.
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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostLast I heard. I believe a couple guys left him post-GGG but I don't think Gassiev was one of them. I'd remember him leaving.
Randomly Ruiz gave him a bad review recently too. Said he was up with Abel for the Parker fight & he was basically training himself. Or its the first I heard Ruiz talking about that anyway.
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Originally posted by Cutthroat View Post
There was no point in moving up to fight Ward for 2 millions when he was mandatory for Canelo/Cotto winner on his natural division.
He knew he would get 10-15 millions fighting either Cotto or Canelo and could even get rematches which he did.
If he was paid 50 millions he would have done it. Ward fought Kovalev because he was paid 3x his biggest previous purse for these fights.
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Originally posted by _Maxi View Post"Too much for me, not today" he clearly means "too big".
There was no point in moving up to fight Ward for 2 millions when he was mandatory for Canelo/Cotto winner on his natural division.
He knew he would get 10-15 millions fighting either Cotto or Canelo and could even get rematches which he did.
If he was paid 50 millions he would have done it. Ward fought Kovalev because he was paid 3x his biggest previous purse for these fights.
My reading is different... there's the timestamp at 8:14 where he says 'no, no Andre ward - too much for me right now' but then he uses very similar phraseology 'I can't, I can't, too much' about a different question (at 9:10) - it's indistinct but it sounds something like 'what sort of fight (with Geale) do you see it being?' and it's clear his meaning is he doesn't have an answer - in effect 'it's too much to think about right now'. The repeated use of the phrase suggests to me his original meaning was not that Ward is too dangerous a fight for him, but simply that this isn't something he wants to think about at that time.
When he's asked about Ward (and Chavez Jr) again at 11:15 he gives a much clearer answer that should have dispelled all this BS a long time ago 'my focus right now is my fight (with Geale)... I hope so in the future, yes'
It's always gonna be down to individual interpretation of course, but I had a non native English speaker as a father so I think I got fairly good at interpreting this stuffLast edited by Citizen Koba; 06-14-2019, 02:46 PM.
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Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View PostFolk still going on about that video?
My reading is different... there's the timestamp at 8:14 where he says 'no, no Andre ward - too much for me right now' but then he uses very similar phraseology 'I can't, I can't, too much' about a different question (at 9:10) - it's indistinct but it sounds something like 'what sort of fight (with Geale) do you see it being?' and it's clear his meaning is he doesn't have an answer - in effect 'it's too much to think about right now'. The repeated use of the phrase suggests to me his original meaning was not that Ward is too dangerous a fight for him, but simply that this isn't something he wants to think about at that time.
When he's asked about Ward (and Chavez Jr) again at 11:15 he gives a much clearer answer that should have dispelled all this BS a long time ago 'my focus right now is my fight (with Geale)... I hope so in the future, yes'
It's always gonna be down to individual interpretation of course, but I had a non native English speaker as a father so I think I got fairly good at interpreting this stuff
Either way we all know fighters move up or down for big money fights. They don't do it for 10% of the money they would get by staying at their divisions.
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