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    #11
    If Munguia can somehow remain undefeated (lol) that’ll be canelos next big fight

    Spence will also produce a big fight

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      #12
      Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post
      So Canelo only sold 15,000+ tickets? And only 600,000 buys for dazn in the USA? And I’m supposed to believe that he is somehow the biggest draw in the sport? Im inclined to agree with the folks back home in England, Joshua is a much bigger cash cow in England than Canelo is in the USA. And at they sure that gate sold tipped the 47,000+ for the Spence jr-Garcia fight?
      This is in no way good news for dazn, if this is all they can muster putting Canelo in with what was supposed to be the toughest opponent not named golovkin. Dazn is losing money on Canelo, big time.


      The seats for Canelo's fight are way more expensive than for Joshua's fights. Can also sold over 52,000 seats in Texas vs a no name opponent. Both are huge superstars the difference is British boxing fans know who Canelo is but not all boxing fans in the USA know who Joshua is. But under DAZN, they will know Joshua in the USA as well

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        #13
        Originally posted by rckdees View Post
        That sounds like a failure
        By what standard?

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          #14
          I don't understand how dropping to $8.7 mil from $27 mil is considered a box office success. Is this still prime Canelo Alvarez we are talking about?

          That's almost a $20 mil loss in revenue at the gate. Unless Ginger is past his prime and on a decline; How could that even remotely be considered a box office success when compared to his previous box office successes?.

          Also, the total gross revenue for his last appearance at the T-mobile arena in his rematch with GGG generated a gross revenue of $117 mil. However, his last fight at the T-Mobile arena according to the article against Daniel Jacobs generated a gross revenue of only $57 mil.

          What am I missing because these numbers compared to his earlier numbers don't seem great to me. Also, the paid attendance was down from 27,000 in the GGG rematch to just 15,000 in the Jacobs fight.

          I just don't get it.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post
            So Canelo only sold 15,000+ tickets? And only 600,000 buys for dazn in the USA? And I’m supposed to believe that he is somehow the biggest draw in the sport? Im inclined to agree with the folks back home in England, Joshua is a much bigger cash cow in England than Canelo is in the USA. And at they sure that gate sold tipped the 47,000+ for the Spence jr-Garcia fight?
            This is in no way good news for dazn, if this is all they can muster putting Canelo in with what was supposed to be the toughest opponent not named golovkin. Dazn is losing money on Canelo, big time.
            Canelo/Jacobs didn't do 600K buys it did 600K in live viewers the US subscribers were much higher then that 600K is just the subscribers that watched live. Fight generated over 48M in New subscribers alone for DAZN.

            The amount of tickets sold means nothing. Most of Floyd's fights NEVER sold out but they set all the records in live gate revenue because the ticket prices are so high, vegas is also notorious for the casinos giving away free tickets to high rollers to lure them to vegas and to spend more money. The goal is the live gate revenue not selling out. Canelo fought nobody Liam Smith and drew over 51,000 in attendance. He could sell out any venue he wants if that's all he cared about and he lowered the ticket prices to how low Joshua tickets are over in the UK. Canelo prices are much higher and Canelo has larger live gates then Joshua. Floyd fought mostly in front of crowds of and avg of 14-15K paid attendance. And the largest ever he had was 16K yet he shattered the live gate revenue record books with numbers Joshua will never see with crowds many times larger then that. it's not about attendance it's about how much money you make off ticket sales. Joshua's next fight with Ruiz is not going to do anywhere near the almost 9M Canelo just did. lol

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              #16
              That's because GGG was the one fans actually cared about. He was the one chasing greatness the whole time. He was the one who was a potential ATG middleweight in his prime. He was the one chasing Sergio, Canelo, Cotto, Froch, etc, the whole time, being ducked. He was the one fighting 3-4x a year getting knockouts every single time including vs multiple top 5 middleweights. He was the one with the charisma who people were invested in.

              But as usual, the "Boxing Establishment" prioritized nationality above everything else and seemed to say to itself, "Well Canelo is the Mexican one, so he must be the one fans like, he's the one we have to protect." In reality, most fans watching only cared about GGG. Only the LDBC and some Mexicans were rooting primarily based on nationality, but most people living in the USA with TV sets are not Mexican or LDBC members.
              Last edited by Boxing Logic; 05-13-2019, 10:02 PM.

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                #17
                Canelo is obvious that is the boxer who sell more in the era post Mayweather...but his numbers in comparison of May, Pac and others in recents years are very low...the boxing bussiness is down, DAZN is going to loose much money with Canelo....so, that are the facts....

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                  I don't understand how dropping to $8.7 mil from $27 mil is considered a box office success. Is this still prime Canelo Alvarez we are talking about?

                  That's almost a $20 mil loss in revenue at the gate. Unless Ginger is past his prime and on a decline; How could that even remotely be considered a box office success when compared to his previous box office successes?.

                  Also, the total gross revenue for his last appearance at the T-mobile arena in his rematch with GGG generated a gross revenue of $117 mil. However, his last fight at the T-Mobile arena according to the article against Daniel Jacobs generated a gross revenue of only $57 mil.

                  What am I missing because these numbers compared to his earlier numbers don't seem great to me. Also, the paid attendance was down from 27,000 in the GGG rematch to just 15,000 in the Jacobs fight.

                  I just don't get it.
                  I agree, Jacobs was probably 1 of, if not the most competitive fights out there left for Canelo outside of GGG. It's no wonder Oscar want's Spence to move up to face him, it's quite obvious Canelo is going to need a dance partner with name recognition or we can expect his box office numbers to start sliding even more

                  That's why I use to say Canelo should learn the English language, don't get me wrong he does well for himself as it is. But I knew eventually he'd hit his ceiling with the latino fan's and would have to speak English to really expand his fan base and become that cross over star and true undeniable face of boxing

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
                    I agree, Jacobs was probably 1 of, if not the most competitive fights out there left for Canelo outside of GGG. It's no wonder Oscar want's Spence to move up to face him, it's quite obvious Canelo is going to need a dance partner with name recognition or we can expect his box office numbers to start sliding even more

                    That's why I use to say Canelo should learn the English language, don't get me wrong he does well for himself as it is. But I knew eventually he'd hit his ceiling with the latino fan's and would have to speak English to really expand his fan base and become that cross over star and true undeniable face of boxing
                    Thanks for your understanding; Good Post!

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                      I don't understand how dropping to $8.7 mil from $27 mil is considered a box office success. Is this still prime Canelo Alvarez we are talking about?

                      That's almost a $20 mil loss in revenue at the gate. Unless Ginger is past his prime and on a decline; How could that even remotely be considered a box office success when compared to his previous box office successes?.

                      Also, the total gross revenue for his last appearance at the T-mobile arena in his rematch with GGG generated a gross revenue of $117 mil. However, his last fight at the T-Mobile arena according to the article against Daniel Jacobs generated a gross revenue of only $57 mil.

                      What am I missing because these numbers compared to his earlier numbers don't seem great to me. Also, the paid attendance was down from 27,000 in the GGG rematch to just 15,000 in the Jacobs fight.

                      I just don't get it.
                      The 27M is from the first Canelo/GGG fight. Damn you dumb Canelo vs GGG a P4P ranked boogyman who Canelo was the underdog against and that was his first fight moving up to 160 to challenge the number 1 p4p guy. You can't see why that fight which had much higher ticket sales to reflect the higher demand of that super fight did more then Canelo vs Jacobs? Jacobs is a good fighter with ZERO fanbase and was a decent underdog to canelo instead of the betting favorite like GGG was. And that fight had 17,000 paid attendance but MUCH larger ticket prices. The rematch had 23M revenue off 16,000 paid attendance. The key is the difference in ticket prices. They could of sold every last ticket (which is impossible in vegas) and still not reached those revenues because these ticket prices were lower.

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