Comments Thread For: Canelo Alvarez is an Excellent Fighter... But Not The Best

[Mexican_Puppet]

Canelo's resume is head and shoulders above Loma's and Crawford's, it's not even funny. The difference in quality is so obvious that Rosenstein counted Martinez and Rigondeaux for Loma and Dulorme and Khan for Crawford haha. If you count those as good wins then let's add Mosley, Angulo, Kirkland and Chavez when talking about Canelo's record. Canelo looked like a killer in those fights too. Loma's resume is decent but Crawford's is laughable.

Exactly.

This article is sh.it

Canelo has a lot of haters in the press and media

I never seen something stu.pid like this


This press and media said that Chocolatito González was the #1 and he did sh.it

His only good wins were a drained Estrada and Cuadras that destroyed his face in a very close fight

[Lomasexual]

The simple truth is that Loma is a better fighter than Canelo.

What is P4P? It's a way to compare fighters between weight classes. It is asking who the best fighter on the planet is, if weight was irrelevant.

It is easy, and clear, to see that Loma would beat Canelo in the P4P sense, probably without losing a single round. That is all there is to it. Loma is a better fighter.

People can wave their hands around all they want. They can try to justify putting Canelo at #1 until they are blue in the face. But they can't argue around the simple fact, that in the P4P sense Loma is unlikely to lose a single round to Canelo, and so must be considered higher P4P.

Canelo, despite his vast experience, is still improving. That's awesome to see. I don't know if he will ever match Loma, in the P4P skills sense. That's not an insult to Canelo. He isn't a generational talent. He's still worth watching.

[Mexican_Puppet]

This is Michael.

A nerd that never practice SPORT and for any reason, he is a autorizhed voice to say who is and who is not the best boxer in the world.

All his argument are straight garbage and unfair arguments

Talking about Big wins of Loma K.O'ing Martínez

Crawford against Ricky Burns hahahahaha

Michael Rosenthal is a ******. How he won an award for anything other than being a ****** is beyond me.

An award? It was a garbage award of his group of boxing nerd like Steve Kim and Fat Rafael

They are sh.it

It was not an international award

[Mexican_Puppet]

The simple truth is that Loma is a better fighter than Canelo.

What is P4P? It's a way to compare fighters between weight classes. It is asking who the best fighter on the planet is, if weight was irrelevant.

It is easy, and clear, to see that Loma would beat Canelo in the P4P sense, probably without losing a single round. That is all there is to it. Loma is a better fighter.

People can wave their hands around all they want. They can try to justify putting Canelo at #1 until they are blue in the face. But they can't argue around the simple fact, that in the P4P sense Loma is unlikely to lose a single round to Canelo, and so must be considered higher P4P.

Canelo, despite his vast experience, is still improving. That's awesome to see. I don't know if he will ever match Loma, in the P4P skills sense. That's not an insult to Canelo. He isn't a generational talent. He's still worth watching.

He is better than Loma and has better career

Loma fought with nothing but bums and he is the ***** of Salido

It's easy look great against sh.it like Walters, small Rigo, Rocky Martínez and Linares (that was K.O'd several times against bums of México).

[Mexican_Puppet]

P4P is for fighters who are a level above their opposition. It's also not so much about the body of work, but about the latest fight. Canelo has had too many close decisions lately...

It was a st.upid argument.

Fu.ck the dude counted as Big wins fights against Burns, Duolorme, Rocky Martínez and Walters lol

Close fights against elite rivals are normal in boxing

The win of Durán against Ray Leonard was too close, very competitive

Floyd had a lot of close fight against Castillo I, Maidana I, an old Óscar, Pacquiao.

Pacquiao always had close fights against Márquez and nobody cried

Yeah, they have some good and clear wins against elite rivals

Canelo has a good win against GGG in the rematch , he did enough to be the winner but haters still crying

Of fact, he won the fight against a top-3 rival

Something that Crawford and Loma.never did and I have doubt they will do something like that because his rivals are stra.ight sh.it

[Mexican_Puppet]

Really dumb article by an author trapped in his own solipsism. He actually says that "many thought Lara won" etc.

I'm just sick of people preferring an "0" to a resume also.

"Many thought Maidana and Castillo won"

"Many thought Márquez won the fight against Pacquiao"


And?

They were the best

[Realizniguhnit]

So your only arguement is that Canelo isn't the best out of the current crop of active fighters because of Loma and Crawford resumes

When Canelo has fought better opposition and achieved more than both while being just over 2 years younger than both. He's clearly the best out of the 3.

I'll agree I think he lost the 1st fight to GGG but every great fighter from Ali to Floyd has a fight or 2 that people thought they really lost.

[Sledgeweather17]

Simple.

Resume: Canelo > Lomachenko > Crawford

Eye Test: Crawford > Lomachenko > Canelo

Official Record: Crawford > Lomachenko > Canelo


Resume is based on opposition faced.

Eye Test is based on skills (cerebral abilities, defense, offense and punch variaion) and physical abilities (Athletism,reflexes, speed, durability, etc).

Record is based on wins and losses.

I guess you could add the accomplishment category too in terms of number of weight classes dominated and undisputed status. In which it would still be Crawford > Lomachenko > Canelo.

Crawford is a three division champ and has been undisputed before. Loma is a three division champ and Canelo is also a three division champ although I'm not sure if anyone takes the IBO seriously at all.

[elfag]

Nobody elses resume even touch's Canelo's.

The only guy with a better resume is Pacquaio and hes well past it.

Loma's resume is no where near the same.

[Realizniguhnit]

The simple truth is that Loma is a better fighter than Canelo.

What is P4P? It's a way to compare fighters between weight classes. It is asking who the best fighter on the planet is, if weight was irrelevant.

It is easy, and clear, to see that Loma would beat Canelo in the P4P sense, probably without losing a single round. That is all there is to it. Loma is a better fighter.

People can wave their hands around all they want. They can try to justify putting Canelo at #1 until they are blue in the face. But they can't argue around the simple fact, that in the P4P sense Loma is unlikely to lose a single round to Canelo, and so must be considered higher P4P.

Canelo, despite his vast experience, is still improving. That's awesome to see. I don't know if he will ever match Loma, in the P4P skills sense. That's not an insult to Canelo. He isn't a generational talent. He's still worth watching.

That's just an opinion. I haven't seen anything out of Loma that indicates he has better skills or could beat Canelo if they were at the same weight. Loma has never even fought an opponent with a similar skills set to Canelo that wasn't smaller than himself. Closest thing out there for him is Garcia or Lopez.