Comments Thread For: DAZN: Canelo-Jacobs Fight Watched By 1.2 Million Worldwide

[KnickTillDeaTh]

No thats just peak US subs. The overall worldwide was 1.2M. They didn't say how many of the overall is US doe.

But sure the bottom would be 600k one could assume off of this news. Main thing with considering that the bottom doe is how many of those subs are gone after this month? Who f#cking knows.

If we can assume the 4M-ish number legit from a week or two for their worldwide numbers & 1.2M watched some part of Canelo vs Jacobs that would mean that the fight had 30% of all DAZN subs worldwide who watched the fight. That actually seems pretty f#cking high to me considering time differences, but maybe not idk.

600k is not reported as subscribers, it is reported as streams. One sub can have 2 streams. Unless DAZN reports it, there is no way to know how much of the 600k or 1.2 mill, was subscribers against what percentage was double streamed.

[EasternEuroFan]

Those numbers are not bad really.

DAZN is mostly in counties where boxing is not a huge sport, never mind the fact that it was in the middle of the night in Europe and it was Sunday morning in Japan, where their other streaming services are.

[Redd Foxx]

That seems about right and for boxing that is SOLID BUT you would think you can get those numbers higher with it only being $20.

I thought I was the only one paying attention. HBO was getting big numbers with an HBO subscription PLUS $80 for the event. DAZN has the subscription and none of the PPV money. Considering that they're paying these guys even more than they were making before, it's clear they'll need massive growth for this to work. This isn't sustainable and we might see them make some major changes to get this to work.

Also, I understand they're growing but the boxing fanbase is limited. There's only so much growth available and if you net the Canelo fans HBO had, but you're pulling in 1/5th the money, somethings going to break. Again, I predict changes coming.

[john l]

There are no more free trials that ended in like january lol And 600K isn't all their subscribers that's just who watched it live. DAZN probably got closer to 1M subscribers. DAZN isn't trying to sell 1 big event they are trying to build a long term screaming service with renewal income every month/every year. Like Spotify and Netflix.

I NEVER said 600 thou was all their subs, matter a fact I talked about the 1.2 that watched it in the post.And why is the fact I did not know if their still giving out free trials funny???I got mine at beginning and now going with the year deal so how the he ll would know/care.Im just not that impressed by 1.2 watching and thought it would be higher.Like I said in 1st post I hope it works and I know their looking at long run, but this was their biggest fight so far and if Canelo fights Andrade it just might be their biggest all year and they got a lot of money on table already, and AJ is not that big here.Also said their could have got 1.2 or close on a FOX PPV at 80+ a pop, now I don't wanna have to pay that but its the truth.

[Eff Pandas]

Yeah this is all about Canelo not jacbos. lol But what's really crazy is the last 2 PPVs did 360K (Spence/Garcia) and less then 200K (Crawford/Khan). 3 of the top 10 P4P fighters did less PPVs then who watched Canelo live on a brand new app that just launched 8 months ago. Canelo is a huge star and draw.

Lets not go sucking DAZN's **** quite this hard.

Comparing Canelo to Spence or Bud isn't a good comparison. Canelo is the biggest name in the game.

The only person we can compare Canelo to is Canelo.

And reality is viewers matter, but not as much as revenue.

Therefore Canelo vs GGG making $80M+ for each of their PPV fights pre-DAZN deal & this fight only generating $24M (assuming $20 max monthly charge x the 1.2M known overall views currently) is a poor revenue number compared to what Canelo is capable of.

Granted its not that simple cuz Jacobs ain't GGG & streaming ain't PPV & DAZN isn't HBO, but I don't believe its a completely irrelevant comparison either.

[Eff Pandas]

One sub can have 2 streams. Unless DAZN reports it, there is no way to know how much of the 600k or 1.2 mill, was subscribers against what percentage was double streamed.

Good point.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

No one subscribes to dazn for a mlb highlight show when can watch highlights on mlb network... 1.2mil worldwide is not good for a canelo fight no matter how try to decipher or break down numbers, dazn needs to do a better job especially in states advertising app not just the week they have a major fight coming up

I have to somewhat disagree with you. Canelo only passed 1 million views with GGG, Cavez, and Mayweather. If you take away Cotto at 900k, you have an average of about 394 k viewers US. Now reported at 600k concurrent streams, lets say 150k - 200k were double streamed, you end up with about 550k - 400 k subscribers. That would actually beat the average when Canelo fights some one who doesn't have a large following. Now to my knowledge, they have never released world wide numbers for a Canelo fight, so there's not really anything to compare that number too. As far as U.S. numbers are concerned, Canelo did fine. As I said before, the real question is, how much of the 1.2 million, is 2 streams from a single account?

[KTFOKING]

Hate to say it but you guys could be a lot farther off than you think. The report says 600k concurrent streams, but it doesn't say how many were pre-existing or new. However it also doesn't indicate how many of those streams were coming from the same account. Every subscriber can use 2 streams during live events. It's also possible that when they say "concurrent", they are talking about the number of accounts that were using both streams, so that'll be 300k subscribers using 2 streams each, and you still won't know how many of the 300k were pre-existing. So as I said, your guesstimates could be way off.

All this is guessing anyways. And how many subscribers are using two streams? I'd wager to guess a VERY small percentage.

[bigdunny1]

600k is not reported as subscribers, it is reported as streams. One sub can have 2 streams. Unless DAZN reports it, there is no way to know how much of the 600k or 1.2 mill, was subscribers against what percentage was double streamed.

You guys are trying way too hard first the live viewers is 100% of their subscribers which is ridiculous BECAUSE DAZN offers more then just boxing and not everyone who has DAZN has it to watch canelo fights and not everyone who saw the fight saw it live on DAZN. Some people who have DAZN could of been at the fight or in Vegas or like me watched it at a buddies house party where we all have DAZN but only 1 of our 4 accounts is streaming live. No streaming app gets 100% viewing live watching their total subscribers. The number of subscribers is always higher then the number viewing at any given time. The point of subscription apps bis the flexibility to watch whenever you want.

But now you saying it's not even 600K subscribers? yeah it's just 100K subscribers and everyone told 6 friends to log in with their user info? sure ok LMAO

Damn you guys coming up with wild stories just so you don't have to admit that this shyt is working. They didn't even exist in 8 months ago and now they had more viewers then each of the last 2 PPVs in boxing combined and likely 1M or close to that subscribers right now which was reported last week by 2 sources and these viewer numbers are in line.

You just a major PPV event with the superstar of boxing for a fraction of what it would of cost you 1 year ago. And only boxing fans would complain and come up with far fetched stories to try and throw dirt on it. Only boxing I tell you. Pitch forks demanding we bring back $100 PPVS over $20 bucks for 1 month or $99 for boxing all year. Hmmm which is better?

[OgTripleOg]

dazn is going to raise the price again watch. LOL