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    #81
    The biggest shame of all this is Deontay Wilder has advisors and managers all around him, all getting money off of him and yet it takes somebody else to offer up some free advice to actually say something that is actually beneficial and honest to Wilder.

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      #82
      No he doesn’t want to fight on your crappy app for less than he would make off of PPV

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        #83
        Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
        wilder and Joshua need each other. This isn't a situation where one will be just fine without the other legacy wise. The heavyweight division isn't super strong. Aside from. Fury, there isn't anyone else who'll generate true enthusiasm. If it were a 60/40 split, that'd be fair, but not having a clue on what that split would be and dazn or Hearn not being forthcoming about it isn't how big fights get made. Ever.
        As a Lennox fan I thought it was the end of the world when Bowe threw his belt away rather than fight. Turns out it wasn't really. There's always someone else, even if we doubt know who they are just yet.

        Wilder was offered a perfectly good deal, even Finkel says as much. If they'd rather play silly buggers then just leave them to it, I've had enough.

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          #84
          Wilder can’t take control of his own career because he’s not intelligent enough. He’s getting fleeced left, right and centre by advisors and managers all taking a slice of the pie, and he’ll believe anything they tell him.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Cobra Curry View Post
            As a Lennox fan I thought it was the end of the world when Bowe threw his belt away rather than fight. Turns out it wasn't really. There's always someone else, even if we doubt know who they are just yet.

            Wilder was offered a perfectly good deal, even Finkel says as much. If they'd rather play silly buggers then just leave them to it, I've had enough.
            the Lewis era had a much greater pool of heavyweights to choose from.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Cobra Curry View Post
              As a Lennox fan I thought it was the end of the world when Bowe threw his belt away rather than fight. Turns out it wasn't really. There's always someone else, even if we doubt know who they are just yet.

              Wilder was offered a perfectly good deal, even Finkel says as much. If they'd rather play silly buggers then just leave them to it, I've had enough.
              the Lewis era had a much greater pool of heavyweights to choose from. I also think the fight not happening did hurt bowe. Lewis however had mid level guys like golata and rudduck, the a step up with mercer and Morrison, then elite with Tyson and holyfield. That's not the case with today's group.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
                the Lewis era had a much greater pool of heavyweights to choose from. I also think the fight not happening did hurt bowe. Lewis however had mid level guys like golata and rudduck, the a step up with mercer and Morrison, then elite with Tyson and holyfield. That's not the case with today's group.
                Put the two careers side by side and it's clear that Wilder is Bowe to Joshua's Lennox.

                At the time, it said that Lennox was "the best of a weak era". Hindsight gives a different perspective.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by EnglishOxide View Post
                  What you intentionally missed out from this statement is the qualifier of 'unless Showtime can guarantee more than DAZN'.
                  They can, and have, guaranteed more than DAZN. Hearn will only allow the fight on DAZN. The problem is that UK fans think everything Hearn says is the gospel and never consider the fact that what he says PUBLICLY and what he says PRIVATELY are often opposites.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                    Hearn and AJ both said they could not have accepted the offer because it was being funded by BT.
                    They only made that up after the fact, months later, to fool gullible fanboys like you. They admitted they turned down the fight because Joshua wanted to fight in the UK. When the truth didn't go over well with the public, they made up a lie later, which amazingly, worked quite well.





                    Revealing some negotiations over parts of the US deal did take place, Finkel exclusively told World Boxing News: “Eddie wanted assurances from us that the fight would be on Sky Sports in the UK and we said; ‘As we are putting up $50m, as long as Sky matches any other bid they got it’.

                    “We just didn’t want Sky to post a low number on Pay-Per-View and we could have gotten more to recoup the $50m which would have been on Showtime PPV in the US. If he took the $50m that would have been our choice. We also acknowledged that if they are paying us $15m (instead for a UK fight), he could just go on Sky – there’s not really a question about that.”



                    The offer wasn't being funded by BT. That's a complete lie and a really ****** lie at that. The fight would have generated way more revenue on US PPV than UK PPV and obviously it would be the US broadcaster funding the fight. To suggest it would be the secondary broadcaster financing the fight is just absolutely ludicrous and shows how little you know about the boxing business. The primary broadcaster puts up the guarantees for a big PPV and that's Showtime. The UK rights would have gone to Sky as long as they matched BT's bid. BT's only involvement was to help establish the value of the UK rights.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                      Eddie has never said the fight can only happen on DAZN.
                      Take a deep breath and think about how ****** your statement is. How could you possibly know whether Eddie ever said that or not? Are you privy to every phone call he makes? Are you privy to every email he sends?

                      I know what he's said to Showtime because I talk to people at Showtime. You have absolutely no way of knowing what he's said to Showtime, so you're making authoritative declarations with absolutely no basis.

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