AJ/Wilder, AJ/Ortiz, Crawford/Spence, Loma/Garcia will not happen. Thanks, Al Haymon!

[Jubei]

Ortiz just blatantly ducked the AJ fight, people are not really sure why. Shockingly he wasnt allowed to take the fight and also got promised a Wilder rematch later this year, as PBCs own Coppinger confirmed recently.

No surprise. Luis Ortiz is with PBC and per sources, has already been promised Deontay Wilder rematch in 2019

— Mike Coppinger (@MikeCoppinger)

Same with Adam Kownacki who declined the AJ offer and said there are other plans for him later this year, apparently he was also offered to fight Wilder down the road, after the Wilder Ortiz rematch.

one thing we learned from this whole Miller incident is that PBC is planning on Wilder fighting twice more this year in high profile fights where Kownacki and Ortiz will get paid very, very well as opponents. Or at least that's what Kownacki and Ortiz have been told.

— Fistianados Podcast (@Fistianadospod)

My next fight wouldn’t be against Anthony Joshua June 1. Ill be back in the ring mid-summer. More news coming in up coming weeks.

— Adam Kownacki (@AKbabyface)

Badlefthook also posted an article about it with more details



So whats really going on here? Wilder will be facing Breazeale in May, then the Ortiz rematch later this year and Kownacki in early 2020? That means Haymon has planned Wilders next 3 fights already, so there is no chance that fans will see Wilder vs AJ anytime soon.

Same problem with Spence vs Crawford. Spence's plan is to face all the PBC fighters in the next 1-2 years. Porter, Thurman/Pacquiao and Danny Garcia.

Here is the latest interview from Ellerbe, claiming boxing fans dont want to see Spence vs Crawford and that fight will not happen anytime soon.

Leonard Ellerbe shuts down any Terence Crawford vs Errol Spence Jr talk. He says "that fight's not happening. What fans want to see Crawford vs Spence?" Stay tuned for interview.

— Helen Yee (@HelenYeeSports)

They probably have similar plans with Tank Davis and Mikey Garcia. Garcia just vacated his WBC belt so we wont be seeing Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia. Tank Davis is being guided carefully away from Lomachenko and even other champions at 130 like Tevin Farmer, Ito or Berchelt. He is supposedly in talks with ancient Yuriorkis Gamboa who is close to 40 and totally shot.

We will not be seeing Anthony Joshua vs Deontay Wilder

We will not be seeing Anthony Joshua vs Luis Ortiz or Adam Kownacki

We will not be seeing Terence Crawford vs Errol Spence

We will not be seeing Vasily Lomachenko vs Mikey Garcia or Tank Davis

As an actual boxing fans how can you defend this?

Real boxing fans need to wake up and realize that PBC and Haymon are ruining our sport. They turn fighters into spineless puppets and try to brainwash simpleminded boxing fans. Sadly they have a big influence with certain media who just parrot whatever PBC/Haymon injects them to say.

[DaNeutral.]

Oh no you have it all wrong. In each individual case it is not Al Haymon or the PBC to blame it is everybody else. I knew they would promise Ortiz a rematch with Wilder to stop him asking for the Joshua fight. But i bet he dont get it. But then that also means they have no intention of looking at Wilder v Joshua later in the year.

They just got their best fighters on lockdown where better fighters cant relieve them of their titles. The PBC are an embarrassment to the sport right now.

[The Big Dunn]

How come you weren't this upset when AJ/Hearn falsely pretended they wanted to fight Wilder when all along they weren't going to launch DAZN with a US PPV and chose povetkin instead?

How come you didn't make a thread when Bob blocked the Spence/Crawford fight by stating he wouldn't make it until it was a "big PPV"?

Jubei you don't care one bit about the health of the sport. You take issue with Haymon solely because he is black. You never get outraged when another promotional entity makes a move that hurts the sport or cheats fans out of fights.

[Mammoth]

You guys honestly think you can blame one guy for all the troubles with boxing politics.....

[DaNeutral.]

How come you weren't this upset when AJ/Hearn falsely pretended they wanted to fight Wilder when all along they weren't going to launch DAZN with a US PPV and chose povetkin instead?

How come you didn't make a thread when Bob blocked the Spence/Crawford fight by stating he wouldn't make it until it was a "big PPV"?

Jubei you don't care one bit about the health of the sport. You take issue with Haymon solely because he is black. You never get outraged when another promotional entity makes a move that hurts the sport or cheats fans out of fights.

And there it is. RACE CARD ALERT RACE CARD ALERT. How pathetic. We hating on a black man (Haymon) because weare defending a black man (Joshua). Amazing. Your an idiot and should have you well worn and tatty race card taken off you until you learn how to use it properly.

[EnglishOxide]

You guys honestly think you can blame one guy for all the troubles with boxing politics.....

No.

Only the politics involving his fighters.

He's got them all believing they can take the Mayweather route.

Mayweather was one of the biggest cherry pickers of all time but also made a lot of money.

Looks like these guys are in for a hell of a lot of cherry picking.

It's not good for boxing, we as fans want to see the best against the best. Haymons model blocks that in favour of making money for him and his fighters.

Fans need to stop watching the PBC mismatches for it to end.

[_Rexy_]

Loma/Garcia?

[The Big Dunn]

And there it is. RACE CARD ALERT RACE CARD ALERT. How pathetic. We hating on a black man (Haymon) because weare defending a black man (Joshua). Amazing. Your an idiot and should have you well worn and tatty race card taken off you until you learn how to use it properly.

I didn't say you were doing anything. I posted the TS was and gave my reasons why I posted such. Why are you responding?

Just a point-you should be careful when you post someone is an idiot when you spelled multiple words incorrectly in your post.

[DaNeutral.]

I didn't say you were doing anything. I posted the TS was and gave my reasons why I posted such. Why are you responding?

Just a point-you should be careful when you post someone is an idiot when you spelled multiple words incorrectly in your post.

who gives a **** about spelling? You managed to read what i wrote easy enough. Its a bit nit picky of you when your busying yourself with calling people racist.

[The Big Dunn]

who gives a **** about spelling? You managed to read what i wrote easy enough. Its a bit nit picky of you when your busying yourself with calling people racist.

The guy calling another poster an idiot should be concerned. No, it wasn't easy to read. You called me an idiot in a post where you spelled multiple words incorrectly. Think about it.

I didn't call you anything, which is why I can't understand why you are responding to what I posted about Jubei. I gather you feel that because I called him out and that you agreed with him I must think same about you. I don't and will not unless you start doing the same things.

Every promoter/network that does this type of stuff should be called out rather than fake selective outrage. I would think you'd agree with that.