Comments Thread For: Ellerbe: Arum Lost His Mind, He Talks **** and Then Wants a Deal

[BillyBoxing]

Haymon ain't a promoter. Of course he's not going to talk about promoter sh^t. Its an apples & oranges thing.

And PBC friendly promoters aren't employed in the same capacity as other promoters operate with their own fighters as they do with PBC fighters so again its a different setup & they won't act like what you're used to a promoter acting like.

You are blaming PBC for not acting like a promoter when they aren't a promoter. And you are hyping the guy being abrasive, as he always is like when he hasn't been able to make big fights in the past. Sh^t man go look at my posts from back in the day & I was saying Floyd & Manny woulda fought each other waaaaaay back in the day if left to their own sh^t, but Arum kept sticking his head in those discussions & destroying any positive movement for yeeeeeaaaaaaarrrrrrrssss.

He's doing the same thing here already & there is less time to work with & less upside to be seen. Old dogs don't learn new tricks. Guy is doing the same sh^t across the board. Idk why you think the past don't matter for a 107 year old mfer. He's gonna keep doing what he's been doing. And rightfully so overall. TR is the oldest promotion I'm aware of in boxing. They are obviously doing a lot of things right. But one of them isn't making big non-in house fights cuz Bob is Mr. F#cking Cancer in reality with that sh^t.

Bob is building the best fighters out shere, I believe Loma and bud are the two greatest current fighters along with Canelo.

I also believe in teo and shakur he's building the 2 best prospects.

Arum build greatness.

In haymonland it remains to be seen, which great fighters is he building despite having 50% of top fighters working on his side?

That's the elefant in the room.

Haymon is not a promoter yes, as an adviser ect... He's more than that.

He "promoted" low risk, high rewards boxing to the next level.

On PBC they are wasting the Charlos, tank, Spence, wilder ect ...they have been pros for a while but their records hold one good win.

The only ones they didn't pamper lately is Mikey.

Porter is taking fights too, props. Proving it is possible.

PBC is about chasing easy dollars, not chasing greatness, PBC company boxers all fine fighting utter NABF cans for good money, good for fighters, but bad for boxing.

But overall this is a pampers opera.

If bob is like you say a cancer to boxing while producing the bud Lomas, then haymon is boxing AIDS...

[BillyBoxing]

Bruh that's bull. In the last two/three years we've had, in no particular order.

1) Spence vs Brook
2) Thurman vs Porter
3) Thurman vs Garcia
4) Porter vs Garcia
5) Porter vs Ugas

Other notable mentions are:

Porter vs Broner
Manny vs Broner
Manny vs Mathysse
Garcia vs Granados
Spence vs Garcia

Can't claim PBC fighters aint fighting each other.

They just aint fighting Spence. But it looks like Spence vs Porter about to happen and Manny vs Thurman too, both this year.

When you have to defend PBC for somehow doing in house fights, you know there is something wrong and you are not getting co promoted fights

Yeah they can do in house fights.

Porter is the less cold feet out there.

But look at tank, wilder, Charlos, Spence....

Poorly managed, low risks, high rewards great for them.

They are not making the HOF let alone ATG lists with that PBC politics...

But if you guys are fine with that, cool.
I'm not.

[kafkod]

Arum killed the fight that he never wanted because if his only great fighter got picked off. Best way to do it is the race card.🥊

The PBC spokesman had already said they didn't want the fight before Arum even opened his mouth!

It takes a special kind of ****** to believe that a statement by Arum or anybody else can be the cause of something which happened before that statement was made.

[DaNeutral.]

You're 😢 crying like a fairy feminine cake girl.

Oh if only the PBC would say that instead of crying and running off. I know its tough for Americans right now cuz their fighters and promoters are looking feminine.

[buddyr]

Call a spade a spade!

Haymon doesn’t have to
Make the fight, Spence has Porter, Thurman, Danny, Pacquiao and Ugas!

Spence will be IBF/WBC/WBA champ with a bigger following and better welterweight resume and resume in general and likely etch higher in p4p lists while Bud
Will drop lower, fight lesser opponents and less following and with only 1 belt!

This is likely the plan, Bud should’ve never resigned with Top Rank! Bomac and Bob is failing him!

Well I said that a while ago. Lomachenko and Crawford should get the hell away from Arum as quick as they can. Lomachenko should be a bigger star than what he is. He's a WHITE FIGHTER, that's light on his feet, uses defense, and moves graceful in the ring but is stuck on ESPN cards on friday night? wtf.. Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux from a historical standpoint was one of the biggest fights in boxing history and it was on ESPN. Arum is failing both of these guys.

[Jsmooth9876]

Call a spade a spade!

Haymon doesn’t have to
Make the fight, Spence has Porter, Thurman, Danny, Pacquiao and Ugas!

Spence will be IBF/WBC/WBA champ with a bigger following and better welterweight resume and resume in general and likely etch higher in p4p lists while Bud
Will drop lower, fight lesser opponents and less following and with only 1 belt!

This is likely the plan, Bud should’ve never resigned with Top Rank! Bomac and Bob is failing him!

Didn't he fail himself when he resigned?
People like that guaranteed money and easy fights, it's pretty evident.

[LCRUMMY36]

Sound just about right. If the shoe was on the other foot Bob would do the same exact thing. People may want to see Crawford vs Spence. But won't be upset to see Thurman, Porter, or Garcia against Spence. I mean, it's not iike he can't lose against them.

[Bronx2245]

It was bad enough when he was talking ***** about Mikey! Remember when he told Robert Garcia, "Tell You;re Brother to Shut the F**k Up!" and then his comments about Mikey after the Spence fight? Was that supposed to help Loma? Now he's playing the race card with Haymon! Is that supposed to help Crawford? NO! He's, old, mad, and desperate! ESPN should make a formal apology! Stephen A, what you got to say? Teddy A, what you got to say? Max, is this acceptable?

[LCRUMMY36]

Dude you're tripping. Garcia is from the East Coast, he know he can sell out in Brooklyn, he trying to build his name up out west also.

And viewership is up, Fox is doing a hell of a job promoting the fighters..

[LCRUMMY36]

Arum did not kill anything. You watch any Fox or Showtime broadcast and they don't even mention Crawford's name. In fact they act like he does not even exist.


Someone remind me when the PBC side have ever mentioned Loma or Crawford as potential opponents for Mikey/Tank or Spence. The only time they talk about them, it is to discredit them as possible opponents.


You guys are acting like Arum is making the fight not happen now. Arum is the only damn one talking about those potential fights and why they should happen. Ellerbe only talks as to why fights are not going to happen.

Not trying to be an Ahole here. But why should Fox or Showtime do anything to help promote ESPN fighters.

If you remember back before PBC first announced the deal with Showtime and Fox.. ESPN came out and said they signed an inclusive deal with Top Rank and if you wanted to fight on ESPN that you would have to go threw TR .

Thats why T.C resigned with T.R.. T.R was in a position of power. Now once those deals was announced, all of a sudden, T.R have all these dates that they can't fill believing that they would have PBC fighters on their platform. I man DAZN, G.B and T.R all was clowning PBC fighters about the lack of dates.

Now they have the dates on the biggest platform, either on free T.V or cable.