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Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View PostI enjoy a good impromptu domestic scrap myself but still wonder why Wilder is so polarizing to certain posters.
Well, the reason is, most knowledgeable boxing fans (here or elsewhere) see Wilder as a fraud. Nobody likes a fraud, except of course, those in a fraudulent business and of which the scam isn't on them.
Closely studying how he got the mandatory slot for his title fight in the first place, one might begin to see reasons with his "haters". His questionable final eliminator with Malik Scot wasn't even a real scrap (personal opinion). No wonder it created quite a controversy at the time. And then he became a champ. Afterwards, one mandatory defence ever since. Against whom? Stiverne! One would ask: why Stiverne? Since losing the title, what had Stiverne done to earn a final eliminator with Povetkin? Then came the Breazeale/Molina situation. Molina in a final eliminator scrap? At that time? Yet another oddity. Boxing fans see these things and can't help but agree there's a form of protection programme ongoing: PBC in collaboration with the WBC.
One look at the IBF, and one would see how it is properly done: Whyte declines a final eliminator with Pulev, he gets replaced by the next highest ranked fighter: Miller. Big Baby declines, IBF goes back to the ranking. That was how we got Pulev/Hugie. I believe you know the story; I was just stating it for emphasis.
The controversy surrounding Wilder/Fury scrap was yet another one. Many argued that Alelandro Rochin could only have been planted by corruption. The conspiracy theories continue.
Well, there's a reason why Wilder has had about "7" defences yet no unifications. There's also a reason why he fought mostly no-hopers in over 38 fights. Two fights afterwards, two cases of controversy. Some might say they saw one; I saw two.
Next, DAZN $100m offer: I can see Wilder wants to fight on no other platform but Showtime. No matter what he says, PBC wants control. I'll wait and see what offer they will come up with after the Breazeale fight, if he wins. But more interestingly, I would like to see what they would do if DAZN countered it with something bigger. I'll wait.
As for those pro-Wilder folks and my su****ions, I'll reserve my comments for another day. I'm tired of typing. This post is too long already. Remind me about it if you wish.
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Originally posted by BoxOfficer View PostI'll attempt to answer your question or calm your amazement, whichever the case. Of course, its only my opinion.
Well, the reason is, most knowledgeable boxing fans (here or elsewhere) see Wilder as a fraud. Nobody likes a fraud, except of course, those in a fraudulent business and of which the scam isn't on them.
Closely studying how he got the mandatory slot for his title fight in the first place, one might begin to see reasons with his "haters". His questionable final eliminator with Malik Scot wasn't even a real scrap (personal opinion). No wonder it created quite a controversy at the time. And then he became a champ. Afterwards, one mandatory defence ever since. Against whom? Stiverne! One would ask: why Stiverne? Since losing the title, what had Stiverne done to earn a final eliminator with Povetkin? Then came the Breazeale/Molina situation. Molina in a final eliminator scrap? At that time? Yet another oddity. Boxing fans see these things and can't help but agree there's a form of protection programme ongoing: PBC in collaboration with the WBC.
One look at the IBF, and one would see how it is properly done: Whyte declines a final eliminator with Pulev, he gets replaced by the next highest ranked fighter: Miller. Big Baby declines, IBF goes back to the ranking. That was how we got Pulev/Hugie. I believe you know the story; I was just stating it for emphasis.
The controversy surrounding Wilder/Fury scrap was yet another one. Many argued that Alelandro Rochin could only have been planted by corruption. The conspiracy theories continue.
Well, there's a reason why Wilder has had about "7" defences yet no unifications. There's also a reason why he fought mostly no-hopers in over 38 fights. Two fights afterwards, two cases of controversy. Some might say they saw one; I saw two.
Next, DAZN $100m offer: I can see Wilder wants to fight on no other platform but Showtime. No matter what he says, PBC wants control. I'll wait and see what offer they will come up with after the Breazeale fight, if he wins. But more interestingly, I would like to see what they would do if DAZN countered it with something bigger. I'll wait.
As for those pro-Wilder folks and my su****ions, I'll reserve my comments for another day. I'm tired of typing. This post is too long already. Remind me about it if you wish.
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Originally posted by BoxOfficer View PostI'll attempt to answer your question or calm your amazement, whichever the case. Of course, its only my opinion.
Well, the reason is, most knowledgeable boxing fans (here or elsewhere) see Wilder as a fraud. Nobody likes a fraud, except of course, those in a fraudulent business and of which the scam isn't on them.
Closely studying how he got the mandatory slot for his title fight in the first place, one might begin to see reasons with his "haters". His questionable final eliminator with Malik Scot wasn't even a real scrap (personal opinion). No wonder it created quite a controversy at the time. And then he became a champ. Afterwards, one mandatory defence ever since. Against whom? Stiverne! One would ask: why Stiverne? Since losing the title, what had Stiverne done to earn a final eliminator with Povetkin? Then came the Breazeale/Molina situation. Molina in a final eliminator scrap? At that time? Yet another oddity. Boxing fans see these things and can't help but agree there's a form of protection programme ongoing: PBC in collaboration with the WBC.
One look at the IBF, and one would see how it is properly done: Whyte declines a final eliminator with Pulev, he gets replaced by the next highest ranked fighter: Miller. Big Baby declines, IBF goes back to the ranking. That was how we got Pulev/Hugie. I believe you know the story; I was just stating it for emphasis.
The controversy surrounding Wilder/Fury scrap was yet another one. Many argued that Alelandro Rochin could only have been planted by corruption. The conspiracy theories continue.
Well, there's a reason why Wilder has had about "7" defences yet no unifications. There's also a reason why he fought mostly no-hopers in over 38 fights. Two fights afterwards, two cases of controversy. Some might say they saw one; I saw two.
Next, DAZN $100m offer: I can see Wilder wants to fight on no other platform but Showtime. No matter what he says, PBC wants control. I'll wait and see what offer they will come up with after the Breazeale fight, if he wins. But more interestingly, I would like to see what they would do if DAZN countered it with something bigger. I'll wait.
As for those pro-Wilder folks and my su****ions, I'll reserve my comments for another day. I'm tired of typing. This post is too long already. Remind me about it if you wish.
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Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View PostI stopped at "most knowledgeable fans". You're not knowledgeable if you claim that the Wilder right hand is somehow fraudulent. Fair game to think other heavies are better or would win vs Wilder, but all the other fraud corruption and other fluff is just jaded bs. ABC orgs have been and always will slant towards money, not a particular fighter.
...Farewell, man!
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Originally posted by Bxbomber221 View PostDwild! Ive said this time and time again....
Having met you and seeing what a gentleman you can be, having seen the honor you bring your town and family back in tusca...
I say this with no disrespect! But
Dude someone needs to pull you aside maybe give you some Qcards or something, because as intelligent as your trying to come across? Its just not coming off like that..
Champ! 1st I have no problem with you trying to get paid, but A.J. having what 4 belts to your 1 seems like he's bringing a little more to the table... so 60/40 sounds about right... (now I've never been a champ or half the fighter you are) no hate here,. just a historian of boxing, ex boxer and a logical person. Beat him you have everything, make history and get paid! The world will be yours! Forever!!!!!!
2nd we as fighters and I can almost guess that the public know the chances we take getting in the ring...
I think! Not 100% sure! but I think at least 1 boxer dies per month world wide.. now I maybe wrong, but I think I read that somewhere.. in any case my brother stop talking so much ****.. I hate hearing or reading people say how un educated you sound! Cause you come across like that and when the mics or crowd are not around your a good dude, fairly well spoken and so on..
puts me to think how much you love your family, your daughter and so on... catching a body goes both ways! God forbid you get caught? All that money you made does what? Buy your daughter another father! Come on brother.. speaking of brother, you have a brother who's a boxer and he gets in there, things can happen to him to..
champ take a sec, think... it's ok to be tough.. let your hands talk, your the hardest hitting M.F. I've seen, but the way your trying to articulate your point, or courage as the champ/ fighter is falling way! Way short of the devastating right hand you throw...
Shelly, Al, lou D and crew need to subpoena a gag order on you asap..
Stop the rhetoric and keep it in the ring.. you should do well with that approach... otherwise your just sounding ignorant! Not tough...
Again I am a fan, I do like your wreckless approach to fighting! It sells and it's exciting to watch.. just shut up and fight..
God bless And good skills champ..
Danny S.
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I might stay up to 4 a.m to watch this - maybe as a hardcore boxing fan.
And Wilder is probably a bit basic as a person. Man would probably get an IKEA flat pack table and you just know an hour later he’s crumbling the whole thing with a big right after failing to locate the little key, reading the instructions, or putting the bolts in the right spots.
His missus comes home to pile of sawdust on the floor and no table for the third time that week.
But this fight is interesting to me because of that altercation they had and because I think Breazale is a good heavyweight actually.
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Wilder worried his opponents not scared of his punch power. So is trying to scare opponents with vicious mouth.
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Originally posted by Mr. Philadel View PostBomber trying too hard for savage points!!...****** thing to say
Petty ways to draw interest imo.
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