Comments Thread For: Barry Hearn: Wilder is Not Very Good, Easiest Fight For Joshua

[LacedUp]

We have to agree with Barry. Wilder isn't very good and likely would get KOd very quickly by Joshua which seems like the reason he won't step in the ring with him.

[that g]

Lies Barry,

The man has a Bronze medal... it’s some technical ability there!!

But that’s not the argument, is it? Not being very good, and being worse than fury and wilder is different from saying he has no technical ability whatsoever.

[LacedUp]

Vada was part of the talks with wilder originally. Vada vs whatever the one in the U.K. is. (I want to say UKIP but I think that’s one of your political parties? Regardless,Not important)

What’s Fuey’s market value? What’s Wilder’s market value? Before Wilder just asked for a percentage and was offered a ten mil flat fee. Is that his market value? Obviously now any offer made is just for the media since he’s rematching Fury, but if everyone is saying that Hearn is lowballing...maybe Hearn is lowballing. I’ve been one of the most vocal saying Whyte has been carefully manufactured to his ranking, but if he’s been making more money already fighting, then he’s being offered less than his market value.

Vada was part of AJs last 3 fights, so that's not an issue.

[LacedUp]

Joshua doesn't move his head off the line consistently enough, and his sheer musculature will always leave him needing to catch that wind in the middle of the fight to give his conditioning a chance to take over

If you honestly think that Wilder won't be able to land on Joshua, you're a fool.

Wilder himself walks like he's stuck in mud after about 3 rounds.

[Redgloveman]

I am so tired of hearing that they were offered 40% like it was off top.

It wasn't. They once again lowballed both fighters and only after being IGNORED by BOTH fighters because they already agree to a match against each other, and then rejected by his OWN FIGHTER that he promotes did he say he would CONSIDER going up to but NO MORE THAN 40 PERIOD!!!

Nope. What he said was “if they want 60/40 they’ve got it”

Hearn apparently can’t make contact with Finkel at the moment so who knows whether that has been offered in writing; but the fact is it’s pretty clear that the offer is 60/40 - why would Hearn state such an easily verifiable fact if it wasn’t true?

To be honest, the narrative is tipping in AJ’s favour. The more I hear from Wilder and his team (e.g. Wilder has enough opponent to last him the next two years without needing AJ the more their story develops cracks.)

I was very much against Joshua after the whole 50 million debacle, but all the Wilder posse seem to talk about is that 50 million as if nothing else matters.

Wilder’s behaviour has been dubious to say the least, recently. I don’t get the impression he really wants to fight Joshua

[Scipio2009]

I agree with you they all want more than they deserve.

They're worth more than what's on offer

[Scipio2009]

If Wilder was such an easy mark, walking away from $80m looks even more suspect

[Jax teller]

Fury hits harder than he gets credit for. He’s till 260lbs. He isn’t Wilder/Joshua but he hits hard enough to keep you honest.

And the human body has incredible restoration powers. I was telling everyone that before the first fight. His past won’t make the difference people think it will. I’ve been sober for almost 2 years now, and I’m in almost as good shape as I was 11 years ago when I was boxing. If he was still using and drinking, yes. But he’ll be fine. That said, I’m sure he’s not incredibly strong to his body though lol

Definitely regarding the KO power these are all big guys and have the potential to knock anyone out, I don't think Fury's commits his power as he's busy keeping on his toes moving in and out instead of planting. I think Parkers a similar story where he's so big how could he not be able to do damage? He showed a bit of potential when he got desperate at the end of the Whyte fight, I'd put it down to their commitment to the KO punch or lack of as to why they generally don't get them. Probably why Wilder generates so much power is because he's the only Pro willing to sacrifice all boxing technique for every right hand he throws, nearly.

With regards to Fury's recovery the body does heal well but ******* and obesity do cause some irreverisble damage, the extent is what matters it's the cliche prevention is better than cure. The damage is unmeasurable and could be insignificant but if there was a potential flaw in Fury this is where I'd go looking escpecially as Wilder is suppose to be more athletic compare every other HW in the first place, seems common sense to increase the pace on Fury regardless.

[Jax teller]

If Wilder was such an easy mark, walking away from $80m looks even more suspect

Who said it was $80 mil?

[Scipio2009]

You think AJ won't be able to land on Wilder then because that' the only way this argument you keep making makes any sense, especially since AJ has shown pattern of getting to work quicker than Wilder with the likes of Molina and Gavern.

Stamina is a non-issue or atleast not as big as you are wishing, Wilder isn't a pressure fighter and couldn't even push Fury to his limits after the damage that must have been caused from his hiatus with Wilder gassing himself and AJ looked fine (regarding stamina) going the distance against Parker.

I never said that Joshua couldn't land on Wilder; read before you speak.

Wilder sits in Joshua's holes in his game, just as Joshua sits in Wilder's holes in his game (all the awkwardness aside, if you come right at Wilder with smarts, he's playing dueling pistols with you and he's a touch wide), which is why Barry Hearn has consistently advised to take any and every other fight before stepping in with Wilder (or Fury for that matter).

You're literally throwing dice in either fight, and Hearn knows it, his boy knows it, and Joshua fans should know it too.