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    #31
    Well here is a question: Is Andre Ward an ATG?

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      #32
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
      Most likely, so long as the best names aren’t ducking him while he is still prime...ahem Mikey....and he continues to win in convincing fashion. Remember, he has won two Olympic gold medals in two weight classes over 400 amateur fights. He is already destined for HOF.
      Why are we asked to forget/discard all these accolades when people bring up his pro defeat to Salido? Some even get crazy angry!
      Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 11-04-2018, 08:00 PM.

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        #33
        Originally posted by DumpkinsPlus5 View Post
        Probably not, but it won't be his fault. I don't think the talent is available across the divisions he should be fighting at to become an ATG. His only hope is to keep moving up weight classes which is a gamble.
        Why? There's nothing up there except Spence and Crawford. And you know he's not gonna fight those guys. What else is there?

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          #34
          Originally posted by Vinnykin View Post
          Loma is already an ATG amateur and has stepped up faster than ANY boxer in history in the pro ranks.

          He will be remembered as one of the best boxers to ever lace up the gloves.
          That's too general and too overhyping. The guy's best pro win is Gary Russell, who is far, far from great, and he has a loss against a journeyman Salido.

          ATGs don't lose to Salido. 14 average to good fighters have wins over Salido.
          Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 11-04-2018, 08:15 PM.

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            #35
            If lomachenko is an ATG what does that make salido?

            Is Salido TBE?

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              #36
              Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing View Post
              Well here is a question: Is Andre Ward an ATG?
              Nope, but he has way better wins than Loma's whole resume in only two fights like Kovalev and Froch. Who on Loma's resume is close to that?

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                #37
                Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post
                Why are we asked to forget/discard all these accolades when people bring up his pro defeat to Salido? Some even get crazy angry!
                Maybe because pro fights are three minute rounds and no head gear. In his second fight he fought a tough seasoned veteran in a grueling dirty fight. Lost a close SD. Meanwhile, we are asked to forget Tank’s age and that he was a champion when fans suggest he fight Loma. Tank had over 200 amateur fights himself.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by lizard_man View Post
                  If lomachenko is an ATG what does that make salido?

                  Is Salido TBE?
                  I don't think the loss to Salido forever defines Loma's career but, when they are deciding all time greatness (ATG), the objective members must consider that, which for me eats up 15% of the total.

                  No sympathy or excuses should enter there.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
                    Maybe because pro fights are three minute rounds and no head gear. In his second fight he fought a tough seasoned veteran in a grueling dirty fight. Lost a close SD. Meanwhile, we are asked to forget Tank’s age and that he was a champion when fans suggest he fight Loma. Tank had over 200 amateur fights himself.
                    Diversion. Carry on.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post
                      Diversion. Carry on.
                      Nope, just fair play. Can’t have double standards now.

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