Is Inoue the most overrated fighter

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

overrated? who even talks about him lmfao,. I think he rated properly. Hes as legit as a figther comes.

[dan_cov]

Overrated my ass. He beat a future unified champ in his 4th fight, won the title from the #1 fighter at 108 in his 6th fight then moved up two divisions and knocked out Narvaez in 2 rounds, (which both Donaire and Tete couldn't do) then moved up again and destroyed a guy who'd never been stopped in 1 round. He's resume would have been better but both Yafai and Ancajas both turned down offers to fight him. I'll make sure to bump this next year after he wins the tournament.

Adrian Broner did it in four weight classes. Just another belt collector. He's skipped through 3 divisions not fighting anybody.
Narvaez? That guys almost a decade past it and spent most of his reign fighting cab drivers in Argentina.
He was about 40 at the time ffs, a 40yr old Flyweight.

#1 fighter at 108? Who was that? Adrian Hernandez? He was #1, really?

[pillowfists98]

Adrian Broner did it in four weight classes. Just another belt collector. He's skipped through 3 divisions not fighting anybody.
Narvaez? That guys almost a decade past it and spent most of his reign fighting cab drivers in Argentina.
He was about 40 at the time ffs, a 40yr old Flyweight.

#1 fighter at 108? Who was that? Adrian Hernandez? He was #1, really?

Your argument is full of holes. He beat the best fighter at 108 so he wanted to challenge himself and move up two divisions. After he won a title at 115 he wanted to unify but the other champions weren't interested. Sure he could have stayed at 115 and waited around for Rungvisai but then people would just say he was avoiding the tournament at 118.

[dan_cov]

The problem is there are too many titles, too many divisions.
A Japanese fighter winning a world title in those divisions is almost the equivalent of a Brit winning a British title.

They're winning world titles from fighters with handfuls of losses to journeyman. Adrian Hernandez wasn't or at least shouldn't have been #1
He wasn't even the best 108lb Mexican fighter I don't think at any point and a guy twice his size beating him at the end of his career is not impressive.

These straps at these lower weights get past around like a slut at a party.
Too often are journeymen winning world titles at those weights, fighters with few fights. I mean Sonny boy Jaro wins a world title lol, losses it instantly to some Japanese fighter whose beat nobody he losses it to Yaegashi who losses it within a year.
Its always the same. They're often not world level just benefiting from boxing being terribly run and being smaller than everyone else its basically only them competing there.

Its not how many titles you win its who you beat. Since say 2010 how many just awful world champions have we had? Hernandez, Sam Soliman, Jaro, geale, Indongo, the guy that beat Jaro, about 40 Japanese\Thai fighters.

[Raggamuffin]

not just of today but in history?

Many mock Broner for being grossly overrated at the time and a hypejob. GGG may of been a bit overrated but both accomplished more than Inoue.
Both have wayyy better resumes. A weight drained Jamie McDonnell is enough to get people on these ******, mythical P4P lists.
Jamie McDonnell on his best day isn't even as good as like Daniel Geale, not even a top 5 win for GGG nevermind that shell that could barely walk unaided.

Inoue hasn't fought anyone remotely decent. Have you seen his resume and who he beat for those straps? He did that by avoiding every single fighter worth a damn. Didn't fight one. And don't tell us guys like Chocalatito, Cuadras, Estrada were shook

In this era especially these straps mean little its who you beat.

Go look at his resume and don't even pretend you don't know who 90% are.

This guy isn't P4P anything no matter what criteria you want to apply to suit your agenda.
Even now he's signed to that tournament its a step towards proving himself but lets not pretend they're anymore proven than he is.
I'm not saying he won't deserve credit and he does for even entering but lets not go overboard in truth we don't really know how good they are either until they fight each other.

As of right now Inoue is disgustingly overrated. You claim he's P4P I say you're one step away from these MMA goons that think some 130lb soaking wet actor beats Mike Tyson in a St fight.

Hell no he isn’t.

[dan_cov]

Your argument is full of holes. He beat the best fighter at 108 so he wanted to challenge himself and move up two divisions. After he won a title at 115 he wanted to unify but the other champions weren't interested. Sure he could have stayed at 115 and waited around for Rungvisai but then people would just say he was avoiding the tournament at 118.

The best at 108lbs? He fought a past prime Thai with the most padded record going who he's 1-1 with and literal journeymen. That makes you the best at 108?
He defended vs 13-6, 14-4, 13-3-1, 10-1-2 opponents.

He's moved up but he's still twice as big. He's a weight bully that's taken the path of least resistance.

Who wasn't interested? Didn't he\his team claim they wasn't ready for Chocolatito? I don't think Cuadras, Estrada have ever turned down a fight. Hawaiian punch, there are tons of good\great fighters he could of fought.

[dan_cov]

Look at how padded that record is. I'd better stop before I wake the house up.

[1hourRun]

Adrian Broner did it in four weight classes. Just another belt collector. He's skipped through 3 divisions not fighting anybody.
Narvaez? That guys almost a decade past it and spent most of his reign fighting cab drivers in Argentina.
He was about 40 at the time ffs, a 40yr old Flyweight.

#1 fighter at 108? Who was that? Adrian Hernandez? He was #1, really?

Why do you even make a thread trying to debate when you are not even familiar with who Naoya Inoue fought?

Adrian Hernandez was legit #1. @ jr. flyweight at a particular point namely after 'Chocolatito' Roman Gonzalez left to flyweight -- you can argue that Kompayak Porpramook/Suriyan Satorn was a better win from Gonzalez win over Hirales, but then you factor the KO L that Adrian Hernandez suffered at the hands of Suriyan Storn and put him @ #2. below the future #1. P4P.

Hernandez holds wins over notable names : future WBC jr. Flyweight champion Rodel Mayol by his 12th professional bout, fought future WBC jr. flyweight Ganigan Lopez. As already mentioned Hernandez lost his 108 crown to Suriyan Satorn in their first encounter but, Adrian rematched and won it back! and defended the WBC jr. flyweight title four times as other figures came and left the division, up until Naoya Inoue 'The Monster' came.

Other modest titlist like Eric Ortiz and Gilberto Keb Baas. You can do all the boxrec check you want but without context, your understanding of these records is very cloudy, causing you to underestimate these fighters.

[pillowfists98]

The best at 108lbs? He fought a past prime Thai with the most padded record going who he's 1-1 with and literal journeymen. That makes you the best at 108?
He defended vs 13-6, 14-4, 13-3-1, 10-1-2 opponents.

He's moved up but he's still twice as big. He's a weight bully that's taken the path of least resistance.

Who wasn't interested? Didn't he\his team claim they wasn't ready for Chocolatito? I don't think Cuadras, Estrada have ever turned down a fight. Hawaiian punch, there are tons of good\great fighters he could of fought.

Yafai and Ancajas both weren't interested. And Adrien Hernandez was the best fighter at 108 at that time. I don't know why that's so hard for you to understand. But you probably think Tete is going to win the tournament. Even Jamie McDonnell is better than anybody Tete has ever beat besides maybe Villanueva.

[Just looking]

He is p4p #1 in my list and if you think his defense is poor you should learn a little bit about boxing. The most overrated would be Joshua