Swimmer Ryan Lochte suspended 14 months for illegal IV by USADA (hypocrisy?)

[4truth]

They didn't ask for it 21 days laters. There was a USADA DOC at Floyds house who took a sample of urine before the IV and a sample after. Floyd notified USADA about the IV beforehand and the DOC was at the house when the paramedic was called and observed as the paramedic provided the IV. The TUE was approved 21 days later.


The IV thing with Floyd was something Thomas Hauser wrote about wanting to convince the public that Floyd was taking PEDs. Hauser has had a hard on for Floyd for years. Funny thing is, there was no long article about Canelo and the failed test because he works for Oscar and writes articles for Ring.

If a sample was taken before, why would one need to be taken after?

[filup79]

USADA explained when they responded to Hauser's letter. NSAC made their position clear. You've read both dozens of times.

Ironically, where was Hauser's letter about Canelo testing positive? Could it be he never investigates or commented on the matter because Canelo is with GB and Hauser is on Oscar's payroll?

[filup79]

If a sample was taken before, why would one need to be taken after?

I guess to make sure there was nothing fishy about what was in the IV.

[KingTito]

If anyone does anything illegal, there should be punishment. If Floyd didn’t technically do anything illegal, well and good. Honestly, I don’t think differently of his career regardless.

[N/A]

You are 100% correct on this. Floyd was caught cheating but he got away with it.

Floyd fans will still deny it.

how was he "caught cheating"?

he fell ill and paramedics were called. it was all witnessed by a usada doping control officer. floyd gave the usada dco a urine sample, then was given an iv in front of the usada dco, then gave another urine sample.

mayweather's doctors and lawyers then prepared the application for a retroactive the****utic use exemption, which was granted.

everything was done within the rules and witnessed by usada.

retroactive tue exists to cover unexpected circumstances. mayweather followed all rules and procedures exactly.

[4truth]

I guess to make sure there was nothing fishy about what was in the IV.

honestly I do not believe that is what happened. If you have something to back that up I'd like to see it. My understanding is that Floyd either would not or could not provide a sample till after an IV.

[Ake-Dawg]

we live in a world where bankers walk away with trillions in bailout for the economic disaster they caused in the first place. that's the official ruling. is the ruling fair or logical?


objective evidence with critical thinking analysis.


Floyd was found with an illegal needle in his arm. FACT.

Floyd broke protocol in the USADA. Fact.

USADA instead of punishing floyd for breaking the rules gave him something new called RETROACTIVE EXemptioN. They made up an exception for him after 21 days. the only other time they gave out that exemption was to another obvious roider, Cyborg.


tell me critically, how that makes any sense. HE INNOCENT CUS THE MAN SAID SO?

Here is a summary of what I read above.

[I don't have all the facts, I don't know all the rules and protocols for the USADA, but I have a preconceived notion that Mayweather cheats so I will utilize some of the facts that I do have to support that conclusion.I will ignore facts such as the USADA being aware of the IV before administration. I will ignore the fact that medical professionals administered the IV and supported the use of it.]

Again...the discussion was about objective critical thinking. That means taking all facts in to account in your conclusion.

[Ake-Dawg]

we live in a world where bankers walk away with trillions in bailout for the economic disaster they caused in the first place. that's the official ruling. is the ruling fair or logical?


objective evidence with critical thinking analysis.


Floyd was found with an illegal needle in his arm. FACT.

Floyd broke protocol in the USADA. Fact.

USADA instead of punishing floyd for breaking the rules gave him something new called RETROACTIVE EXemptioN. They made up an exception for him after 21 days. the only other time they gave out that exemption was to another obvious roider, Cyborg.


tell me critically, how that makes any sense. HE INNOCENT CUS THE MAN SAID SO?

Here is a summary of what I read above.

[I don't have all the facts, I don't know all the rules and protocols for the USADA, but I have a preconceived notion that Mayweather cheats so I will utilize some of the facts that I do have to support that conclusion.I will ignore facts such as the USADA being aware of the IV before administration. I will ignore the fact that medical professionals administered the IV and supported the use of it.]

Again...the discussion was about objective critical thinking. That means taking all facts in to account in your conclusion.

[_Maxi]

how was he "caught cheating"?

he fell ill and paramedics were called. it was all witnessed by a usada doping control officer. floyd gave the usada dco a urine sample, then was given an iv in front of the usada dco, then gave another urine sample.

mayweather's doctors and lawyers then prepared the application for a retroactive the****utic use exemption, which was granted.

everything was done within the rules and witnessed by usada.

retroactive tue exists to cover unexpected circumstances. mayweather followed all rules and procedures exactly.

You're lying.

For 20 days after the IV was administered, USADA chose not to notify the Nevada State Athletic Commission about the procedure.

Finally, on May 21, USADA sent a letter to Francisco Aguilar and Bob Bennett (respectively, the chairman and executive director of the NSAC) with a copy to Top Rank (Pacquiao's promoter) informing them that a retroactive the****utic use exemption had been granted to Mayweather. The letter did not say when the request for the retroactive TUE was made by Mayweather or when it was granted by USADA.

Subsequent correspondence in response to requests by the NSAC and Top Rank for further information revealed that the TUE was not applied for until May 19 and was granted on May 20.

In other words, 18 days after the fight, USADA gave Mayweather a retroactive the****utic use exemption for a procedure that is on the WADA "Prohibited Substances and Methods List." And because of a loophole in its drug-testing contract, USADA wasn't obligated to notify the Nevada State Athletic Commission or Pacquiao camp regarding Mayweather's IV until after the retroactive TUE was granted.

Floyd applied for the TUE 20 days later. Don't lie. Something very fishy went on there and they tried to hide this for three weeks.

NAC executive director Bob Bennett was not pleased with USADA's handling of the situation, particularly the decision to retroactively grant Mayweather's TUE:

"The TUE for Mayweather's IV - and the IV was administered at Floyd's house, not in a medical facility, and wasn't brought to our attention at the time - was totally unacceptable. I've made it clear to Travis Tygart that this should not happen again. We have the sole authority to grant any and all TUEs in the state of Nevada. USADA is a drug-testing agency. USADA should not be granting waivers and exemptions. Not in this state. We are less than pleased that USADA acted the way it did."

Even NSAC director mentioned something fishy went on there.

They didn't inform of this IV to ANYONE. They kept it secret for three weeks.

WHY?

[SUBZER0ED]

So, are we talking about that retired little hobbit yet again? No, just no.