Comments Thread For: Usyk Dominates Gassiev To Unify WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF Titles

[Motorcity Cobra]

Gassiev is a Russian national, but he is not Russian "by blood".
He is Ossetian, which is one of the nations in Russia.
His ringname literally means "Ossetian", since Ossetians call themselves "iron (ee-ron)".
Ossetians believe they are descendants of Asi of Alans (Scythian-Sarmatian tribe), today they call their land Alania and their language is direct descendant of Scythian).

Interestingly, by blood, Gassiev is closer to Usyk than he is to Russians, since Scythians are believed to be ancestors of Ukrainians as well. And Alans described by Marcellus look pretty much like Ukrainian Cossacks. )))

Interesting. Where are you from?

[MDPopescu]

Agreed... Not saying Usyk could unify the HW division... just saying that of all the "notorious" up there, Wilder is the most "reachable"...Simple weight vs skill set math... I don't even believe Usyk himself thinks he stands a chance against the "skilled" 240 - 260 guys...

Wilder has very long hands... do you see Usyk bullying him?... I don't...

[Superbee]

I think he can beat Bellew, Whyte, and Parker.

Joshua and Wilder might be a bridge to far.

Wilder lack of everything technical would expose him so much against "tonight" Usyk that it wouldn't even be funny... I agree with Parker... Whyte at 260 might be pushing it a 'bit doe... Hughie Fury anyone ? I'd buy that as an appetizer over Bellew any time...

[Superbee]

Wilder has very long hands... do you see Usyk bullying him?... I don't...

Did you see Usyk bullying Gassiev ?... He out boxed him, yeah... Bullied ? ... Nope...
He'd do the same with Wilder... Hell I don't think Wilder would catch "tonight" Usyk as much as Gassiev did ...

[Motorcity Cobra]

Wilder lack of everything technical would expose him so much against "tonight" Usyk that it wouldn't even be funny... I agree with Parker... Whyte at 260 might be pushing it a 'bit doe... Hughie Fury anyone ? I'd buy that as an appetizer over Bellew any time...

I forgot to add Tyson Fury. Anything below T. Fury, Wilder, and AJ I think he can beat. Hell, I think Gassiev will beat Hughie and Whyte.

[landotter]

There is no way this is Gassiev at his best. This was apparently a clinic (reading about it, haven't seen it) but Gassiev is a great fighter with skills. Too big a moment? Too tight?

Usyk is a man, a talented fighter with no weakness at 200. He moves smoother, punches clean, and can fight at angles. He isn't heavy handed and does not have one punch power, but he can hurt his opponents.

Just sounds like he was kicking it on all cylinders today.

[Gurgutt]

It’s a definite style. A very effective one at that. Movement, a clinical jab, and volume combinations. Gassiev looked dumbfounded the way Usyk circled to his right after landing crisp shots. Loma obviously very similar.

I’d be keen to find out who’s behind it all.

Papachenko and Gopak are behind this style.

Papachenko is Loma's dad and he was Ukrainian London Olympics Team trainer setting his imprint on Loma, Usyk, Gvozdyk, Berynchyk and rest.

Gopak is Ukrainian traditional dance with intricate martial-like legwork and angle movement.

Before boxing Papachenko forced Loma to learn traditional dancing and started teaching him boxing only when Loma was "ready" after some 3 years of dancing classes.
One of peculiar moves in Ukrainian dances is "popping-up" like a fishing float out of water at strange angles and in weird rhythm. Watch their fights closer and you'll get what i mean.

[landotter]

I forgot to add Tyson Fury. Anything below T. Fury, Wilder, and AJ I think he can beat. Hell, I think Gassiev will beat Hughie and Whyte.

Tyson Fury as we saw him last fight is a punching bag for Usyk. That guy is overrated and either gets dedicated or gets flattened. Usyk takes him.

Joshua, Wilder, Ortiz? Those three end Usyk's night ugly. I think Parker is a lean over Usyk simply on skills and size, but I think Usyk could get him on a good night.

Below that line a motivated Usyk can rack up some wins, but he better be respectful of how much more powerful those punches can be one division up.

[Superbee]

I forgot to add Tyson Fury. Anything below T. Fury, Wilder, and AJ I think he can beat. Hell, I think Gassiev will beat Hughie and Whyte.

I think Gassiev would stand a better "puncher" chance against bigger guys than Usyk... But at the end of the day the HW task would be a hard technical way for both guys to overcome the weight differential vs Much-Bigger-and-also-Skilled HW... Wilder, on the other hand, is vulnerable to both, specially Usyk IMO...

[4truth]

I like Wilder’s chances vs Joshua better than against Usyk. There isn’t anybody Wilder can’t knock out if he catches them. I don’t think Wilder catches Usyk. That said, I don’t like Usyk’s chances against Joshua much at all.