Was Canelo on the juice for the first fight?

[_Maxi]

Nope. It was all tainted beef. If ginger really wanted to juice he could have simply refused VADA testing for the first match (like JMM always refused it for his post-Heroidia fights) and GGG the b side couldn't have done nothing about it

Wbc and wba require vada.

[Shape up]

He thought he was safe in Mexico, he had never been tested there before, testing started earlier, requested by GGGs team, he was caught out, the last picture of him looked like he'd dropped 15kg after he'd been caught, he was juicing

[Illmatic94]

Key point here bro. Abel pushed for testing to start 3 months out otherwise we'd still have no clue he was dirty.

ppl have been saying Abel asked for earlier testing since forever but I haven't seen any proof of it.

[S7V7N]

ppl have been saying Abel asked for earlier testing since forever but I haven't seen any proof of it.

in the video. I've seen it reported elsewhere also. It's too damn early to go looking but I'm sure you could find it.

[Elroy The Great]

[B]We don't know for sure, but I don't think it's unreasonable to suspect that he might have been using clen for the first fight, but didn't get caught because testing started a month later than it did for the rematch.

a whole lotta ''i dont know but.....''

most so called fight fans swear they know 1000% if a guy is roiding and dont need results to prove it.

there is a laughable stipulation, doe -
ifs its their guy, hes clean. 100000%

[xhiddenx87]

If he was on peds, it didnt work
Where was the power then?

[Graz]

When he looks noticeably smaller on fight night, gasses out quicker, and gets KO/TKO'd in the middle rounds of the rematch, we will have our answer.

I think so too. It’s pretty obvious that Canelo has morphed into something else over the last 2 years. He “beefed” up considerably. If he’s truly clean for their rematch he’ll be leaner and able to run away more effectively than he did for their first outing. He will not stand in there and trade with Golovkin.

[stealthradon]

[kafkod]

a whole lotta ''i dont know but.....''

most so called fight fans swear they know 1000% if a guy is roiding and dont need results to prove it.

there is a laughable stipulation, doe -
ifs its their guy, hes clean. 100000%

That's a fact. And I've also noticed that failing a PED test - or even multiple failures - can totally discredit one fighter with some fans, whereas another fighter is allowed to carry on with his career as if it never even happened.

EG, Luiz Ortiz is still "the boogeyman of the HW division" to Wilder fans, despite being popped 3 times - twice for actual steroids - while Povetkin is "PEDvetkin" and "nothing without his meldonium" to those same fans!

Going back to Canelo, he has behaved in a very shady way around PEDs in the past. He withdrew from VADA before the Smith fight, and wasn't tested by anybody during his camp. And miraculously, was able to make 154 for the first time in about 5 years.

And there were 2 conflicting explanations from his camp about that:

Explanation 1 - there was no VADA testing because Smith didn't want it. Which was true, in a sense. Smith didn't want VADA for himself because he was already being tested by UKAD.

Explanation 2 - there was no VADA testing because "we didn't have time to set it up". Which was an obvious lie, because VADA themselves announced Canelo's withdrawal from their program when he started his camp for Smith. And so far as I know, he didn't go back on to it till after he was suspended this year.

[Shape up]

a whole lotta ''i dont know but.....''

most so called fight fans swear they know 1000% if a guy is roiding and dont need results to prove it.

there is a laughable stipulation, doe -
ifs its their guy, hes clean. 100000%

But in this case there was results