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    #11
    Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
    Get over it.

    It's not that deep.

    He's the best fighter alive you'll just have to accept it.
    RJJ
    Floyd Mayweather
    Andre Ward
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Thomas Hearns
    Marvin Hagler
    Roberto Duran

    Are all still ALIVE, Einstein...

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      #12
      That’s not how this works.

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        #13
        Originally posted by ScottWeiland View Post
        but if you’re really wanting to question convince an entire forum what Crawford has done that Loma has not.
        Easy.

        Remain *undefeated*.

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          #14
          Do this guy knows about Manny pacquiao? A guy with losses early on his record and then got to the top of P4P list.
          Oh look thread fail!

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            #15
            Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
            ... Guys like Terrance Crawford and Mikey Garcia are UNDEFEATED. You want to be P4P #1? Beat one of those guys and the argument will be put to rest.

            And please, SAVE the excuses. The LOSS was legit...
            Valid points but you can also argue who did mikey or Crawford fight in their first 8 pro fights that was as experienced and dangerous as salido?
            I’ll help you
            NONE
            NO ONE
            so that kinda puts the argument to a reset doesn’t it?

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              #16
              Originally posted by xhiddenx87 View Post
              Do this guy knows about Manny pacquiao? A guy with losses early on his record and then got to the top of P4P list.
              Oh look thread fail!
              Pacquiao has wins over Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrera, and Miguel Cotto.

              Exactly WHO has Lomafako beaten?

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                #17
                Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
                RJJ
                Floyd Mayweather
                Andre Ward
                Sugar Ray Leonard
                Thomas Hearns
                Marvin Hagler
                Roberto Duran

                Are all still ALIVE, Einstein...
                Leonard 3 losses, Hearns 5 losses, Hagler 3 losses, Duran 16 losses, Roy Jones 8 losses (brutal ones by some bums too) so according to tie casuals mentality about losses meaning you can't fight you can't qualify those guys.

                Your rules would suggest GGG, Wilder, Joshua are all FAR better than those guys.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Chuckguy View Post
                  Valid points but you can also argue who did mikey or Crawford fight in their first 8 pro fights that was as experienced and dangerous as salido?
                  I’ll help you
                  NONE
                  NO ONE
                  so that kinda puts the argument to a reset doesn’t it?
                  No.

                  Crawford beat his Salido level opponents.

                  Garcia literally beat Salido.

                  Lomafako, OTOH, never bothered to avenge the LOSS.

                  Beating the likes of GRJ and Jorge Linares isn't enough to warrant P4P #1 status when A) you LOSE to the like of Orlando Salido and B) guys like Terrance Crawford and Mikey Garcia are *undefeated*.

                  1 + 1 = 2

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
                    Easy.

                    Remain *undefeated*.
                    Calzaghe > Roy Jones?

                    He kicked his ass and was unbeaten.

                    Calzaghe > Hopkins?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
                      Leonard 3 losses, Hearns 5 losses, Hagler 3 losses, Duran 16 losses, Roy Jones 8 losses (brutal ones by some bums too) so according to tie casuals mentality about losses meaning you can't fight you can't qualify those guys.

                      Your rules would suggest GGG, Wilder, Joshua are all FAR better than those guys.
                      So, are you arguing that Lomachenko is better than Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Duran, and RJJ?

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