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    #21
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
    What are you using, besides your feelings, to gauge the casual fans interest?
    Well he mentioned it's never had worse star power...which is true. There has always been at least one household name. Maybe Manny Pacquiao or FMJ is that name now, but they're either done or just about done. Let's hope that Canelo/GGG/Loma/AJ/Wilder crossover and become that name.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
      I'm not claiming it's the level of the Tyson/Holyfield days. But it's far from dying. The average age of a boxing fan is younger than the average age of an MMA fan. If boxing was dying in America you wouldn't see people like Dana White & Eddie Hearn trying to break into the market. Boxing still dominates gates & PPV's for big fights & it's not even close
      Dying may have been over-dramatic, but I think the reason you have guys like White and Hearn trying to break in is because they see an open window. There are really no stars in US boxing, interest is at a low, so they see an opportunity to take advantage of that and perhaps become the relevant sources of American boxing. We will see what the continuing changes in how people take in live sports and how the boxing world continues to adapt affects things as well, with streaming platforms and things of that sort.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
        If boxing was dying in America you wouldn't see people like Dana White & Eddie Hearn trying to break into the market. Boxing still dominates gates & PPV's for big fights & it's not even close
        I don't think Dana & Eddie are moving deeper into boxing cuz of all the money there. They are moving deeper into boxing cuz of all the potential money there cuz boxing currently has no f#cking clue what its doing 99% of the time.

        Its among the most poorly ran professional sports out there today. And anyone finding a solid niche or angle can write their own checks here at worst & at best could completely re-structure the sport to a more logically based operation that could greatly enhance the popularity of the sport.

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          #24
          I remember reading on here a few years back people absolutely slating the UK boxing scene, no fighters/titles etc. It was never that weak. Now we seem to have strength in numbers but most importantly we've got a figurehead like AJ who if nothing else, is charming and a good orator.
          That pricks the ears of the general public and suddenly you've got outside interest coming into the sport and then looking around from there at who else they can support.
          We've done some good things to highlight the sport, don't underestimate the Olympics, a lot of the fighters that have turned pro from there have become mild household names and they're easier to push onto the general public than some ****er covered in tats.
          Love him or loathe him but Eddie Hearn has pushed out the sport to the masses

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            #25
            Originally posted by BigZ44 View Post
            Dying may have been over-dramatic, but I think the reason you have guys like White and Hearn trying to break in is because they see an open window. There are really no stars in US boxing, interest is at a low, so they see an opportunity to take advantage of that and perhaps become the relevant sources of American boxing. We will see what the continuing changes in how people take in live sports and how the boxing world continues to adapt affects things as well, with streaming platforms and things of that sort.
            yes but until then, White and Hearn have to provide metrics that insinuates its better than American Boxing.

            Haymon is the forefront mastermind for American boxing.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
              I don't think Dana & Eddie are moving deeper into boxing cuz of all the money there. They are moving deeper into boxing cuz of all the potential money there cuz boxing currently has no f#cking clue what its doing 99% of the time.

              Its among the most poorly ran professional sports out there today. And anyone finding a solid niche or angle can write their own checks here at worst & at best could completely re-structure the sport to a more logically based operation that could greatly enhance the popularity of the sport.
              Yep, EP and I see it the same. US boxing needs a major overhaul, maybe one of these guys or the combination of them can provide that.

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                #27
                I don’t get this US is dying thing, boxing in America is still the place to be. If you can generate your following there then you know you have made it. The bigger pay is there but you need to break that market first doe. The UK market is definitely getting bigger doe

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by rolshans View Post
                  Well he mentioned it's never had worse star power...which is true. There has always been at least one household name. Maybe Manny Pacquiao or FMJ is that name now, but they're either done or just about done. Let's hope that Canelo/GGG/Loma/AJ/Wilder crossover and become that name.
                  Canelo last 2 PPV's have eclipsed 1 mil. Those are numbers Mayweather and Pacauiao used to do.

                  Originally posted by BigZ44 View Post
                  Dying may have been over-dramatic, but I think the reason you have guys like White and Hearn trying to break in is because they see an open window. There are really no stars in US boxing, interest is at a low, so they see an opportunity to take advantage of that and perhaps become the relevant sources of American boxing. We will see what the continuing changes in how people take in live sports and how the boxing world continues to adapt affects things as well, with streaming platforms and things of that sort.
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                  I don't think Dana & Eddie are moving deeper into boxing cuz of all the money there. They are moving deeper into boxing cuz of all the potential money there cuz boxing currently has no f#cking clue what its doing 99% of the time.

                  Its among the most poorly ran professional sports out there today. And anyone finding a solid niche or angle can write their own checks here at worst & at best could completely re-structure the sport to a more logically based operation that could greatly enhance the popularity of the sport.
                  Very poorly ran but both see there is a lot of money to be made in boxing. White, McGregor, & Pacquiao are a part of the Mayweather effect. When a fighter outside of Haymon fights Floyd they realize there's a lot of money to be made and they want in on it. Pacquiao & Mcgregor attitude towards their team ain't been the same since they fought Mayweather. Those were 2 guys doing Mayweather level PPV's and were extremely underpaid in comparison.

                  Dana saw all the money to be made in boxing now he wants in. Boxing will never die. Hearn & White see there's so much more room for growth in America. And thats because of the sport being poorly ran not because people aren't interested anymore.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                    I don’t get this US is dying thing, boxing in America is still the place to be.
                    Its standard boxing fan extreme opinion bs.

                    Boxing fans been saying boxing is dying since I've been watching boxing. Boxing fans been saying the guy who's 23-1 & lost his first fight after 4 successful title defenses is a bum now since I've been watching boxing. Boxing fans been saying the guy who's got the nice KO streak & looking dominate right now is unbeatable for life since I've been watching boxing.

                    For whatever reason a lot of boxing fans seem to have a hard time coloring between the lines of the non-extreme opinion.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by animelive View Post
                      Maybe U.S should think twice about the way they operate with boxing. High priced tickets/ppv = lower viewership. End of the day, you might earn a bunch of cash but that is short term idea and quite ******. All it does is discourage people from watching boxing.

                      In U.K, it is for the masses. The ecosystem has been created to be sustainable, not only for this generation of fighters but the next few too. End of the day, it is just the mentality of the countries. U.S is too capitalistic and that might be the death of any low popularity good fights. It is good that people in charge in U.K are more competent and are slowly building a new mecca for boxing.
                      Showtime is pretty much done with it, except true super fights. HBO use it more in order to offset the costs(In addition to other cut backs in their boxing budget already). PBC has fights all over cable TV, and ESPN runs Golden Boy and Top Rank fights. The wheels have been in motion for several years already in order to bring more boxing to the masses and less dependence on the PPV model.

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