Why is it that suddenly US boxing media is covering UK fights alot more?

[Eff Pandas]

I think for MJP specifically its cuz they'll pay her to come there. Allegedly Nelson is hitting dat so he might even have something to do with that. Watch what happens if/when they break up. She might be back in Milwaukee looking all sad n sh^t again.

[M Bison]

It will never die here, it will survive as a niche sport, but I think it is at an all time low as far as star power fighters in the US. As far as casual interest in the sport, I can't remember it ever being as low as it is now

Must suck seeing NBA, NFL, NHL Youtube channels blowing these Boxing YT channels away, I mean what is wrong with Americans?
I'd go far as saying that the UFC is received more better than Boxing is in the US, money isn't everything.

Casuals care less about the sport of boxing in the US because I think it has to do with poor promotion/advertisement of the fights and then we have fighters to blame for fighting boring and avoiding hard fights.
Boxing shouldn't have to be a sport reliant on supporting an individual it should be a sport built just like the UFC which is solely focused on entertainment value which boxing far too often completely ignores.

[soul_survivor]

Maybe U.S should think twice about the way they operate with boxing. High priced tickets/ppv = lower viewership. End of the day, you might earn a bunch of cash but that is short term idea and quite ******. All it does is discourage people from watching boxing.

In U.K, it is for the masses. The ecosystem has been created to be sustainable, not only for this generation of fighters but the next few too. End of the day, it is just the mentality of the countries. U.S is too capitalistic and that might be the death of any low popularity good fights. It is good that people in charge in U.K are more competent and are slowly building a new mecca for boxing.

This is a very good point and something I highlighted way back in 2015 with may/pac. How many big boxing events in the US are even frequented by actual boxing fans? The ecosystem created around those 2 for 5 years pushed out actual fans and delivered tickets into the hands of casinos, namely the MGM, who then comp out those tickets to their highest rollers, thus encouraging them to gamble more (like populating those casinos with **********s).

Its a small, quick buck ecosystem which is failing time and time again. PPV numbers in the US are becoming abysmal, there is no mainstream cross over and thus coverage of the sport is suffering.

The lack of boxing on terrestrial tv is a problem in the UK too but subscription services and PPV are not out of the reach of the true fan, so it is not as big of a problem. PLUS, with the way managerial and promotion systems work, we are getting top fights and top fighters more often than say, PBC in the States.

It is just not sustainable and if the massive drop off in coverage continues, the European market is wide open (let's not forget the presence of Germany and Eastern Europe in the higher divisions).

[Chrismart]

Because of Billy Joe Saunders

[BigZ44]

What are you using, besides your feelings, to gauge the casual fans interest?

I don't know a single person that could name 3 active boxers right now, it wasn't that way 10 or even 5 years ago. It's not like it takes rocket science to see that boxing's popularity is at an all time low in the US. I'm sure you know this, I don't see what the shame is in acknowledging it

[Motorcity Cobra]

I don't know a single person that could name 3 active boxers right now, it wasn't that way 10 or even 5 years ago. It's not like it takes rocket science to see that boxing's popularity is at an all time low in the US. I'm sure you know this, I don't see what the shame is in acknowledging it

So you're using anecdotal evidence. Well my experience is different. We talk regularly about boxing at my barbershop. We get together to watch the fights at the shops. There are 3 gyms within 5 miles of me. There's a local show here at least once a month and they're always packed. Even the amateur shows are packed. So if we're basing it on anecdotal evidence i would have to say boxing is doing pretty good

[Boksfan]

Boxing in Murica is dead.

[Eff Pandas]

So you're using anecdotal evidence. Well my experience is different. We talk regularly about boxing at my barbershop. We get together to watch the fights at the shops. There are 3 gyms within 5 miles of me. There's a local show here at least once a month and they're always packed. Even the amateur shows are packed. So if we're basing it on anecdotal evidence i would have to say boxing is doing pretty good

I agree with BigZ actually.

The Morning Punch In Show podcast gots this game where they ask people various levels of boxing questions. And a lot of them are super basic. Like name 5 active fighters? That sh^t gets embarrassing as f#ck sometimes. Dudes talking about Holyfield is active & sh^t. And this is boxing people who are listening to a podcast live not just regular sports dudes or something.

The average boxing fan is a pretty poor fan, but yea there are pockets of good boxing fans too like you are suggesting. Thing is most mfers aren't even casually boxing smart let alone hardcore boxing fan smart.

[BigZ44]

So you're using anecdotal evidence. Well my experience is different. We talk regularly about boxing at my barbershop. We get together to watch the fights at the shops. There are 3 gyms within 5 miles of me. There's a local show here at least once a month and they're always packed. Even the amateur shows are packed. So if we're basing it on anecdotal evidence i would have to say boxing is doing pretty good

Cool, I'm glad to hear there are still some hardcore's out there that talk boxing in real life. If that's what you think based off of your experience, I'm not gonna tell you that you are wrong. With that being said, from my own experience and in places like this site, I'm comfortable in my opinion that boxing is a niche sport that has maybe 1 fighter (Canelo) that still has big appeal to casuals and can draw for PPV's against most any opponents. But certainly there was more attention paid to boxing in 70s, 80s and 90s, I don't think that can be argued. Even the 2000s with guys like ODLH, RJJ, Mayweather, Pacquiao and the tail end of guys like Tyson and Holyfield drew a much bigger response among general sports fans that this era of boxing does not in the US.

[Motorcity Cobra]

I agree with BigZ actually.

The Morning Punch In Show podcast gots this game where they ask people various levels of boxing questions. And a lot of them are super basic. Like name 5 active fighters? That sh^t gets embarrassing as f#ck sometimes. Dudes talking about Holyfield is active & sh^t. And this is boxing people who are listening to a podcast live not just regular sports dudes or something.

The average boxing fan is a pretty poor fan, but yea there are pockets of good boxing fans too like you are suggesting. Thing is most mfers aren't even casually boxing smart let alone hardcore boxing fan smart.

Cool, I'm glad to hear there are still some hardcore's out there that talk boxing in real life. If that's what you think based off of your experience, I'm not gonna tell you that you are wrong. With that being said, from my own experience and in places like this site, I'm comfortable in my opinion that boxing is a niche sport that has maybe 1 fighter (Canelo) that still has big appeal to casuals and can draw for PPV's against most any opponents. But certainly there was more attention paid to boxing in 70s, 80s and 90s, I don't think that can be argued. Even the 2000s with guys like ODLH, RJJ, Mayweather, Pacquiao and the tail end of guys like Tyson and Holyfield drew a much bigger response among general sports fans that this era of boxing does not in the US.

I'm not claiming it's the level of the Tyson/Holyfield days. But it's far from dying. The average age of a boxing fan is younger than the average age of an MMA fan. If boxing was dying in America you wouldn't see people like Dana White & Eddie Hearn trying to break into the market. Boxing still dominates gates & PPV's for big fights & it's not even close