Eddie Hearn Offers Wilder $12.5M flat.

[bigjavi973]

Let's see wilder do ppv in the US then...

VS Adam Whoda****areyoucki...

Like I said fool, aj offering him 4 times his last ppv.

I'm not talking about a flat fee as the issue. It's the amount.

If manny was offered 5 times his last payday, then I would have said hell yeah.

If aj offered less than double wilder payday such as 4.5mil I'd say **** that.

Wilder is a 2.5 mil fighter if he headlines.

If you don't understand that then that's because you're dumb.

Pac and Floyd sold ppv. Wilder has sold zero ppv in his life

5 times is a 100 mil

why would floyd or anyone else offer him 100 mil?



thats why I said 2-12 and 24-40 is a big difference

(oh but its more than double) again when it comes to that insane amount of money you HAVE to deal in % its a common practice....



post up some fights where they made ALOT of money and the challenger accepted a low flat offer:

please dont take long either I dont have all day

[Boksfan]

When was Ward the biggest usa star?



i dont believe I ever said that please quote it

I didn't say was, I said is, he fought last year, no other US fighter can sell any PPVs except him can they? And even biggest US star Ward can't sell much.

[PensionKiller]

No one is going to get that kind of flat fee so stop the bullsh-t dude.

You absolutely are a hypocrite and its sad. When its Manny, you posted about the concept of flat fee offers being unfair. it wasn't the amount.

When its Wilder you don't mention not whether the concept of a flat fee offers are fair or not, just the amount and then decide flat fee offer is ok.

Just admit it-you don't like Wilder so you don't give a sh-t what he gets. You just want the fight you could care less if the offer is "fair". Yet you love Manny so you decided the flat fee was unfair when it was him and said he should reject it.

You guys are really something.

Flat fee offer for manny who already sold ppv himself... The second highest active fighter in terms of sales...

Wilder has sold zero. There are zero figures to what he will do alone.

Wilder is also being offered 5 times his last ppv. If he headlines, he's a 2.5 mil fighter...

Manny was making 25 guaranteed before Floyd... So 40 mil wasn't that special. He could make it in 2 fights while Wilder needs 5 fights to make 12.5 mil

The scenarios are not the same. Aj is the A side and generates 8 times wilder does per fight.

Floyd didn't generate 8 times manny.

Stop being ****** and bias. Both are clearly different situations.

[Kagami Taiga]

This would be the biggest heavyweight fight since Vlad vs. Haye. There's almost no way that this fight doesnt generate 100+. 12 million is not gonna be an acceptable number, and its not even about Wilder. Haymon would NEVER accept that for one of his top fighters.

[bigjavi973]

The fight is a big deal in England not in America. PPV sales here are irrelevant. The fight is about as big as Joshua-Klit perhaps a little more so because Joshua is probably bigger now. Joshua obviously drives the PPV and gate over there.

Lewis-Tua isn't a great example as it was a different era where PPV's happened more often. These days unless it's a Mayweather fight or Canelo-GGG all PPV's are flops. Lewis also wasn't the superstar Joshua is right now either. He wasn't really loved by the public even though he was a great fighter.

pretty much it takes two to tango and they both need each other for that amount of money to generate.... a flat fee kills any fight we all know this by now but for some reason these aj stans are all up in his jizz about this

[Robbie Barrett]

I understand the question but is it relevant? I don't know.

When was the last time the 2 non PPV fighters fought for the HWT title in a unification?

AJ is the biggest star in the sport. Wilder is drawing over 1 mil viewers whenever he fights. To suggest this is the same as say Crawford/Postol, last time 2 non PPv fighters fought on PPV, seems silly.

Ward and Kovalev were drawing over 1 mil viewers in the US. How well did their fight do? Silly is saying this fight sells well in Vegas or on PPV in the US when there's zero evidence to support that.

[bigjavi973]

Seems like a decent offer. Wilder should take it. How much is that in dollars?

12.5 mil on a fight that can generate as much as 100 mil plus any rev after as well

oh and hes only getting that 12.5 thats it nothing else

and he has to travel to the uk for the fight as well

[PensionKiller]

5 times is a 100 mil

why would floyd or anyone else offer him 100 mil?



thats why I said 2-12 and 24-40 is a big difference

(oh but its more than double) again when it comes to that insane amount of money you HAVE to deal in % its a common practice....



post up some fights where they made ALOT of money and the challenger accepted a low flat offer:

please dont take long either I dont have all day

Post me a fight where one guy has 3 legit titles and the other 1,and is offered 5 times his last purse and rejects it?

[bigjavi973]

If there is no US ppv then wilder has no leverage at all for UK ppv.

well there IS us ppv so you can wish upon a star all you want

[The Big Dunn]

Flat fee offer for manny who already sold ppv himself... The second highest active fighter in terms of sales...

Wilder has sold zero. There are zero figures to what he will do alone.

Wilder is also being offered 5 times his last ppv. If he headlines, he's a 2.5 mil fighter...

Manny was making 25 guaranteed before Floyd... So 40 mil wasn't that special. He could make it in 2 fights while Wilder needs 5 fights to make 12.5 mil

The scenarios are not the same. Aj is the A side and generates 8 times wilder does per fight.

Floyd didn't generate 8 times manny.

Stop being ****** and bias. Both are clearly different situations.

You posted a flat fee offer was unfair then. Now you are saying a flat fee offer is ok.

To justify your flipping you keep going to the amount being offered. The offer shouldn't matter to you because you were against the concept.

Either flat fee offers are fair or they are not regardless of the amount or the fighter involved.

what you are pushing is the flat fee offer concept is unfair for Manny but fair in other situations. No dude, sorry.