Comments Thread For: Saunders: Golovkin is 35 Now, Can't Keep Up To Outbox Me

[j.razor]

My friend is a doctor and stayed 35 is the age the body declines. You can not be at your potential physical peak beyond this, but of course you probably were never there unless you're an athlete like a boxer where they drain themselves etc and train hard for camps.

He was never on decline, it was the competition that exposed him. You lil g fans keep trying so hard that it looks so bad....lol

[j.razor]

In the hundreds of years, better yet thousands of years of competitive sports what athlete gets better beyond their early 30s? I keep telling folks on here, as someone on the tail end of their 30s even as a non-athlete you feel the slide. Unless you are using something you are sliding no matter what..in some cases genetics favors people so it's not as visible but ain't no way in hell an athlete isn't declining after like 31/32..they might able to muster a masterful performance but definitely not the same way or with the same consistency as they could in their 20's.

I got one for you, Bernard Hopkins. lil g has been exposed the very second he stepped up.

[j.razor]

I just can't respect this guy. The way he openly ducked the GGG fight, when GGG was on a tear up. He wanted no part of him, he did not want to even test the waters by saying he might fight him

And now! when GGG has aged, shown signs of slippage, and had some close encounters of losing he has suddenly become the brave fighter. I definitely can't respect that.
Dude is almost suprised he had such an easy time with Lemieux and it's really encouraged him, but I still see him as the inconsistent fighter wth a poor gas tank, which will put him at a loss against GGG (even at this point)

It's not the "age" or "signs of slippage" it's the competition.

[rrayvez]

How do you go from knocking out bums to stepping up in competition & struggling a decline? He is what he is....there never was a "decline."

he's declining like all clean athletes do at 35. If he had fought jacobs or Canelo 2-3 yrs ago, neither would've seen the final bell. Even so, he was still good enough to beat both of them despite their age advantage.

[TheCell8]

lol who says Golovkin has to outbox him? He'll just walk him down and stop him late. Basically what Eubank Jr. did to him in the 2nd half of their fight.

[turnedup]

I don't even think GGG is on the decline as people like to point out, he's fighting people now who are also good fighters is all.

I got one for you, Bernard Hopkins. lil g has been exposed the very second he stepped up.

So bernard was better over 35 than he was before 35...GTFOH....even his man ****m would laugh at you for that comment and I am a hopkins diehard when he's not crowing for GBP

[turnedup]

It isn't just boxers who decline in their 30's. Look at any individual sports that require high energy and athleticism at the top level. Female athletes are different, because they arn't stoked up with testosterone at their peaks. But it's very rare to see male athletes still winning top tournaments in their 30's nowadays, and none can do it consistently, like they could in their 20's.

GGG has been training hard and competing at world level, amateur and pro, for over 20 years now. Is he a hype-job or is he superhuman? A lot of people at this forum need to make their minds up about that, instead of trying to have their cake and eat it at the same time.

We don't always agree on stuff on here but i am glad someone here is being reasonable.

[turnedup]

The difference between those past generations and now is that it's 2017. Our science has advanced exponentially over the years, and athletes have been some of the biggest beneficiaries of that.

-48 year old Hopkins won a title at 175.
-41 year old Klitschko came in at his lightest weight since '09 against AJ, an old HW losing weight is UNHEARD of.
-Povetkin peaked after 35
-Kovalev is 34 and is arguably getting better
-Rumors are Ortiz is near 50 years old
-Heavies like Mansour are in phenomenal shape and were capable of fighting well into their 40's

etc. even in other sports we're seeing some crazy things, we're seeing athletes come back from injuries that used to be career ending faster than ever with no problem like achillies tears. We're seeing 6'5 athletes like Usain Bolt break sprinting records, 6'11 405lb tackles in football like LaQuan McGowan run a 5.49 40 yard dash or 6'6 305lb Terron Armstead run a 4.65 40, NFL prospects like Josh Imatorbhebhe with a 47 inch vertical etc. even in boxing, who has ever been built like AJ and moved like him? What about the Fury bros, who else their size has moved as fluidly? Who has hit as hard as Wilder? etc. in basketball we're seeing 6'11 players play the point like Durant and Antetokounmpo, that's unheard of in previous eras.

ggg is at the peak of his experience and he hasn't fallen off that much physically as people insinuate. He needed the Jacobs fight to prep him against Canelo, he lacked the experience at the top level to compete. As late as 30 he was barely able to beat Kassim Ouma of all people.

I'm sorry bro but all the science in the world isn't going to reverse the damage of the brain...everything starts with the brain..you get your brain smacked around enough you'll slow down. It's inevitable...hell if you want to pull out Ouma I can pull out Floyd barely getting past Castillo and both went on to destroy plenty of foes after that. Every man has his wall, those were theirs. Respect the men, to say both are prime right now is laughable when one is saying his body can't take it and the other one has been halfway talking retirement for 12 months. While experience plays a part all the experience in the world isn't going to help you fend of father time, you may fight smarter but you aren't getting any faster after 33 years of age, sorry even Gatlin needed drugs to do that.

[turnedup]

It has more to do with how much damage they've endured,ggg hasn't aged in the ring with his fights mostly all only being a few rds & vs weak opposition.

Mayweather was able to fight pro til 38,he didn't get punished very much due to his style. GGG only went pro at age 24 too. Look at him vs canelo he went full 12 without gassing horribly like kovalev,hes not old he has just finally daring to be great & I have much more respect for him than I did before because of it. He still needs to face Jacobs again or move up to 168.

In one sense you are right though that surely a fighter whos 35 is past his prime,but theres plenty of reasons why ggg hasn't aged like many other fighters & certainly not enough to be considered old or an unimpressive win for anyone. Hes undefeated still so he should still count as a p4p win for anyone off that alone.

My man may i honestly ask how old you are? I'll show you plenty of dudes my age who never competed just stayed in good health who'll tell you themselves the body does not recover as it once did, it's just not possible without drugs. It's why JMM raised so many eyebrows to me,because very few people are going to make the kind of changes he made. Klitschko despite his great form just couldn't do it anymore..the mind wants what the body just can't produce dawg. Look at Bradley, that dude was always a machine with the workouts..his body couldn't take it and he's on the early side of 30. Nobody beats father time. Julio Franco in baseball was an anomaly but then again he wasn't really doing it like the youngin's were either.

[satiev1]

I'm sorry bro but all the science in the world isn't going to reverse the damage of the brain...everything starts with the brain..you get your brain smacked around enough you'll slow down. It's inevitable...hell if you want to pull out Ouma I can pull out Floyd barely getting past Castillo and both went on to destroy plenty of foes after that. Every man has his wall, those were theirs. Respect the men, to say both are prime right now is laughable when one is saying his body can't take it and the other one has been halfway talking retirement for 12 months. While experience plays a part all the experience in the world isn't going to help you fend of father time, you may fight smarter but you aren't getting any faster after 33 years of age, sorry even Gatlin needed drugs to do that.

LMAO. Did he just honestly say 48 year old hopkins and kltichko at 40 are in their prime? LMA0.