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    #31
    Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
    I think the offer was between $500-750k that's not a humiliating offer for a fighter who's making around $100k a fight. Loma even offered the money to round it up to what Rigo wanted and he said no. Saying he should come down to his weight class.

    Sounds like Rigo found multiple ways to avoid the fight. Maybe he was just smart and avoided the fight to the point where he can have a bunch of ready made excuses but then again even he said "size doesn't matter no excuses".
    how much to lomachenko?. Probably a lot more when rigo is as champion as he is.
    Most of those conditions were made by kouth but not on papers as rigo requested. The point is that rigo now is giving his 122 titles, moving up 2 weight divitions while loma was not able go back to 126 and ill not be surprised if the lomas purse will be biger also.
    Who wants the fight and who is giving everything?. Who is the brave?. He first asked for equal conditions but once he realized loma never gave up then rigo gave everything
    Last edited by racostaa; 11-28-2017, 12:32 PM.

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      #32
      Originally posted by racostaa View Post
      how much to lomachenko?. Probably a lot more when rigo is as champion as he is.
      I think less than $1m. Probably between $750-900k in a fight which would have been for Loma's belt and Loma the clear a-side. Great offer and overly generous to Rigo. I bet the split is even bigger now but he accepted it. Hmmm probably because like I said he ran out of options and finally saw his real worth and standing.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Slimjoe View Post
        Size matters. Rigo has no chance.
        Size matters when one fighter uses the physical weight advantage like leaning on the opponent which wears a smaller fighter out and causes lower back back pain for the opponent mid ring and especially against the ropes. This fight comes down to skills and each guy is going to reduce the effectiveness of the other and potentially take away their best weapon when the skill level is this high. The fighter who adjusts or readjusts to what the other guy is doing will win. I dont expect a KO.
        Last edited by richardt; 11-28-2017, 12:36 PM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
          That's not entirely true. Rigo turned the fight down last year at 126 before Loma fought Martinez. He admitted to turning it down and made the excuse on a video that the size difference was too much. I think if I'm not mistaken he was offered $750k and Loma even offered to pay him extra from his purse should he beat him and that was turned down too.

          I'm pretty sure the money is probably the same as what he was offered but he's simply ran out of options at age 37 when since he ducked the fight he fought some bum in England on an undercard and US tv didn't pick it up and then undercard on a PPV that was a bust. He overvalued his worth and overestimated his pull and wanted fighters to come down to 122 and simply turned his nose up at 126.
          This is true. Two years ago Lom even complied with Rigo's re-hydration clause and other specifics and the offer was as you say 750K. Team Rigo walked. I say team because it often is a team decision. But Rigo came around knowing that there is no way he would ever get that great offer again.

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            #35
            Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
            Rigo "called him out" then said no to 126. What's Loma supposed to do? Go down to 124? As the A-side no less. Not how calling out works when your calling out from only one division bellow.

            If you call out from one division which is a whole four pounds then you really must step up that one divisions and four whole pounds when the "challenge" is accepted.

            But yes your right it will be swept under the rug and even the same folks that swear Rigo dominates will give no praise. Half have got their excuses in order already and ignored the real history half will give no credit despite Loma proving them wrong.
            why not go back to 124 at that time?. Is not equal and fair loma going down 2 pounds while rigo going up 2 pounds?. If he wanted the fight he should didit. Why not going bavk to 126 now instead of making rigo going up 4 pounds?. He wants the weight advantage always, but if rigo wins he will be more humiliated now

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              #36
              Exactly what i said. Whoever can imposed his style on the other will be the victor. This fight will come down to ring generalship.

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                #37
                Originally posted by racostaa View Post
                Arum use create humilliating conditions in order to make any self respecting fighter to avoid the fights. Probably wotked out a year ago but not now. There are several ways to avoid a fight, like a purse humiliating condition for instance.
                Thats the rigos merit. He overcame everything to make the fight under any condition and risking everything
                Get off your high horse and off of Rigo's nuts and learn some facts! 750K for Rigo is NOT humiliating when his last fight was 120K! And 2 years ago Lom agreed to Rigo's hydration clause and other specifics were agreed on when team Rigo walked away.

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                  #38
                  These guys gonna smash each other just like I smashed BigStomps mom

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by richardt View Post
                    Get off your high horse and off of Rigo's nuts and learn some facts! 750K for Rigo is NOT humiliating when his last fight was 120K! And 2 years ago Lom agreed to Rigo's hydration clause and other specifics were agreed on when team Rigo walked away.
                    is lomavhenko bettwr fighter than rigo?. Is he mire champion to deserve better purse?.loma for sure is white and rigo black latin but koma is not better. Do you understand the fair and equallyty means?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by racostaa View Post
                      how much to lomachenko?. Probably a lot more when rigo is as champion as he is.
                      Most of those conditions were made by kouth but not on papers as rigo requested. The point is that rigo now is giving his 122 titles, moving up 2 weight divitions while loma was not able go back to 126 and ill not be surprised if the lomas purse will be biger also.
                      Who wants the fight and who is giving everything?. Who is the brave?. He first asked for equal conditions but once he realized loma never gave up then rigo gave everything
                      You dont understand the basics of the business of boxing which you will learn along the way. The money split is not based on who is a champion or who is not or if both fighters are champions, it is based on what the promoter can get for the fighter and Rigo as fantastic as he is, does not have the advantage of a high-level promoter investing in the value of their fighter. Arum dropped Rigo out of emotion which was not right to do but he saw that Rigo simply could not draw. So for team Rigo to ask for or demand a huge payday - that would not work. It took Arum to make Rigo his second highest payday for the fight to happen.

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