Comments Thread For: Kell Brook Still Mulling 'Weight' Decision, Will Return in 2018

[rickJen]

No need to think hard about it.
154 is the best division for fighters.
Top fighters are not required to fight each other.
Ask Haymon fighters especially Lara.
Start with Zaveck, then Rodriguez, Foreman, Gausha, Ishe, etc.

[koolkc107]

You out of your dang mind son?

Thurman breaks his brain socket. Horn would blitz Kell. Garcia, Pacquiao, Matthysse all batter that fool back to Yorkshire.

Brook is a quitter who beat ONE SINGLE SOLITARY dude in his life.

I think Brook is too much for any welter not named Errol.

And I hope we get to see it.

If he tries 154, he is going to get more things broken, unfortunately.

[koolkc107]

Tell me honestly who wins? 28 year old, active 147 Brook or inactive Brook who had changed his training and diet, went up and then had his face broken by GGG.

Like I said, you obviously have no idea about boxing or the human body if you think your metabolism and recovery don't change after 30, and that moving up 2 weight divisions and then moving back down would have no effect whatsoever.

You come across like a fanboy, desperately trying to overplay Spence's win here, it was a good win but he did not beat Brook at 100%, that's a scientific and boxing history fact. No professional boxer or trainer would advise doing what Brook done, and they didn't, it was him that was too proud to vacate his only world title.

Everyone knew Spence would be a tough fight, as he's world class and in his prime, but lets not try to make out he beat a prime and 147 active fighter here lol

I am not trying to overplay Spence but you certainly are making excuses for Brook.

Kell just made 31 less than half a year ago and here you are carrying on like he is an old man.

He is in his friggin prime, or damn close too it.

Stop trying to spin this as anything other than a honest loss.

Spence is better. Period.

That doesn't mean Kell isn't good, and that doesn't mean 154 is where he should go.

He can still make 147 and that is where he should stay.

You say I DKSAB, huh?

Well let me assure you of one thing.

He steps in with Charlo, Hurd, or Lara and what Spence did to him will be repeated.

Remember you heard it first from someone who doesn't know shyt.

[koolkc107]

Ok. If you want to carry on believing that age has no effect on a fighters ability to cut weight and perform to the best of their ability afterwards, feel free.

Of course age is a factor.

But Kell is not an old man.

He is 31.

Still plenty young to cut weight.

[Vinnykin]

I am not trying to overplay Spence but you certainly are making excuses for Brook.

Kell just made 31 less than half a year ago and here you are carrying on like he is an old man.

He is in his friggin prime, or damn close too it.

Stop trying to spin this as anything other than a honest loss.

Spence is better. Period.

That doesn't mean Kell isn't good, and that doesn't mean 154 is where he should go.

He can still make 147 and that is where he should stay.

You say I DKSAB, huh?

Well let me assure you of one thing.

He steps in with Charlo, Hurd, or Lara and what Spence did to him will be repeated.

Remember you heard it first from someone who doesn't know shyt.

I would say the same thing for ANY fighter that struggles to make weight as it is, and is over 30, going up 2 weight divisions and then coming back down after a loss, to go in a ring and be the same fighter they were previously.

ANY!

Do you really believe it had no effect?

And answer the question you have avoided twice now. You think Brook of 2014 beats the Brook of April 2017 after going up 2 weight divisions and is nearly 3 years older and hasn't foguth at 147 for 14 months.

If you do, you DKSAB.

[koolkc107]

I would say the same thing for ANY fighter that struggles to make weight as it is, and is over 30, going up 2 weight divisions and then coming back down after a loss, to go in a ring and be the same fighter they were previously.

ANY!

Do you really believe it had no effect?

And answer the question you have avoided twice now. You think Brook of 2014 beats the Brook of April 2017 after going up 2 weight divisions and is nearly 3 years older and hasn't foguth at 147 for 14 months.

If you do, you DKSAB.

The Brook of 2014 won a questionable decision against Shawn Porter and I honestly couldn't see much difference between that guy and the guy Spence beat.

If you look at both fights, the big difference is the opponent. Porter did a lot of headhunting and Kell made him pay for it then he would grab Shawn and Shawn would not do much but wait to be separated.

By contrast, Errol went downstairs from round 1 and worked inside even harder when they got close.

The Brook of 2017 was as athletically gifted and smarter than the 2014 version, IMO.

He just ran into a better fighter this year.

[Vinnykin]

The Brook of 2014 won a questionable decision against Shawn Porter and I honestly couldn't see much difference between that guy and the guy Spence beat.

If you look at both fights, the big difference is the opponent. Porter did a lot of headhunting and Kell made him pay for it then he would grab Shawn and Shawn would not do much but wait to be separated.

By contrast, Errol went downstairs from round 1 and worked inside even harder when they got close.

The Brook of 2017 was as athletically gifted and smarter than the 2014 version, IMO.

He just ran into a better fighter this year.

I don't care about your bias observations. Styles make fights and Brook done what he done to get the win.

To even suggest that Brook of 2014 doesn't beat Brook of 2017 shows you don't know the fighter, and you don't know **** about boxing, metabolism and training.

If a 30 year old Spence goes into camp and moves up to MW, gets his eye-socket broken, is out for even longer, then tries to get back down to 147 nearing 31.....he loses to 28 year old Spence.

You can't admit the damn obvious, you're a fanboy.

[MDPopescu]

He needs to move to 154...

yes

He can't beat top guys at 154

this might be true also...

...

Brook was a drained fighter in there, accept that. He said before the GGG fight he was fighting at 60% at 147, and then suddenly he goes up to MW, loses, goes back to 147 looing drained as **** and he was 100% and it was ALL Spence that beat him. Brook should have never taken the fight, you can't beat guys like Spence in your 30's after going up to MW and draining yourself. Never been done and never will.

... Brook likes to be fat...

[koolkc107]

I don't care about your bias observations. Styles make fights and Brook done what he done to get the win.

To even suggest that Brook of 2014 doesn't beat Brook of 2017 shows you don't know the fighter, and you don't know **** about boxing, metabolism and training.

If a 30 year old Spence goes into camp and moves up to MW, gets his eye-socket broken, is out for even longer, then tries to get back down to 147 nearing 31.....he loses to 28 year old Spence.

You can't admit the damn obvious, you're a fanboy.

No, it's you that doesn't even realize WTF you are talking about.

He didn't yo-yo.

It isn't like Roy Jones where he gained 20-25 pounds of muscle going up to heavyweight then had to strip some of that muscle back down to get to light heavy again.

Kell simply didn't have to cut as much weigh as he normally would. He isn't fat at 160, that's closer to his normal walk around weight.

The idea that getting back to 147 after fighting at 160 was some herculean thing that forever ruined him is a fanboy myth and excuse. You should be ashamed of yourself for even trying to spout that bullshyt as fact.

He didn't have to worry about cutting as much weight is all.

And there was more of a layoff between his fights with Gavin and Bizier than his fight with GGG and Spence.

Didn't hear any talk about his metabolism causing problems boiling down to 147 then.

Truth is, there is little difference between 28 year old Brook against Porter, almost 30 year old Brook against Bizier, and 31 year old Brook against Spence.

All versions were big welters that boil down to 147.

All were in their prime.

[AdonisCreed]

Mistake number 1 fight Spence at welterweight .Mistake number 2 fight anyone at welterweight!!

Good one bro lol hahaha