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    #41
    Originally posted by revelated View Post
    So was Grabomir Clinchko yet he continues to be heralded as one of the greatest Heavyweights.

    We can't have it both ways. I'd rather just say, if your opponent doesn't do anything to stop it, keep doing it.

    I remember Mills Lane once DQ'ng a guy for excessive clinching when he did a fraction of what Grabomir would do. I'm glad those days are gone.
    And Grabomir is another guy that doesn't straight up box.

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      #42
      Originally posted by The Viper View Post
      Witter was undefeated when he fought zab come on now.......
      Witter had 18 MF'n fights. Compared to Bradley where he'd had over 30 by that point.

      Judah beating Witter at that point in his career to me is equivalent to Naseem Hamed beating Said Lawal, or Chris Eubank beating Reginaldo Dos Santos. LOL

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        #43
        Broner isn't cut out mentally for boxing at the highest level...he's a front runner.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
          Lmao..

          Undisputed welter champ, that went on to win multiple 154 belts and nearly dethroned middleweight champ jermain taylor and you think he was a journeymen

          Witter was a bum



          Did you even watch boxing back then or you boxrec'n it
          Cory Spinks AT THAT TIME was a paper champion and you know it. He didn't hit his stride until years after the Judah fight.

          Witter was the equivalent of a journeyman when Judah faced him. 18 fights, most going the distance, a bunch of nobodies.


          And what you guys are missing is that the alphabet soup of titles was WAY worse back then, so being a titleholder meant way less unless it was the heavyweights or middleweights.

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            #45
            Originally posted by larryxxx. View Post
            Gamboa was weak between the ears as well and accomplished far less then Judah..hell all 3 are weak between the ears
            True. I think Gamboa was mismanaged. Could have done more with his talent.

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              #46
              Originally posted by revelated View Post
              Cory Spinks AT THAT TIME was a paper champion and you know it. He didn't hit his stride until years after the Judah fight.

              Witter was the equivalent of a journeyman when Judah faced him. 18 fights, most going the distance, a bunch of nobodies.


              And what you guys are missing is that the alphabet soup of titles was WAY worse back then, so being a titleholder meant way less unless it was the heavyweights or middleweights.


              Admit,, you didn't even watch boxing then..



              Cory spinks was a "PAPER CHAMPION" at welter..

              He only beat mayorga who beat Vernon Forrest who was the undisputed king of the welters.. this was the real deal title, but you would know that if you watched back then

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                #47
                Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                Admit,, you didn't even watch boxing then..



                Cory spinks was a "PAPER CHAMPION" at welter..

                He only beat mayorga who beat Vernon Forrest who was the undisputed king of the welters.. this was the real deal title, but you would know that if you watched back then
                those guys were all ducking margarito so they were all frauds. its just like everyone was doing at 160 with golovkin for years. when there is a clear #1 guy for 3 plus years and none of the "champs" fight them, their real deal title isnt so real.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by CatchAndShoot View Post
                  And Grabomir is another guy that doesn't straight up box.
                  he cant box as we saw against fury. hes just super long and has a good jab but whenever someone tries to get within his jab he will simply clinch them because he has no idea what to do.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by daggum View Post
                    those guys were all ducking margarito so they were all frauds. its just like everyone was doing at 160 with golovkin for years. when there is a clear #1 guy for 3 plus years and none of the "champs" fight them, their real deal title isnt so real.
                    Who the **** did margarito beat 2004 or earlier that would make him clearly #1 when spinks was champ?

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by daggum View Post
                      he cant box as we saw against fury. hes just super long and has a good jab but whenever someone tries to get within his jab he will simply clinch them because he has no idea what to do.
                      Exactly. The guy is just a giant grabbing machine. Not like Ward though, because I know you're gonna criticize him for the same thing, but Ward fights in his clinching.

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