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Who had more potential Zab,Broner or Gamboa?
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Originally posted by revelated View PostName one guy better than DeMarco on Judah's DECISIVE win list. And don't you dare say Cory Spinks who was a straight up journeyman when they fought.
Judah also beat witter which is much more impressive than beating demarco
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Originally posted by revelated View PostAt some point you people need to understand that a fighter's job is to NOT allow their opponent to do that to them. We need to stop whining about roughhouse tactics, Mills Lane is retired and ill. Those days are gone.
Don't want to get wrestled? Do something about it. He didn't. Manny didn't. Choco didn't. That's their fault.
"No matter how...you...cut it, slice it or weigh it, he LOST to Ricky Hatton."
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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostCory spinks was a journeymen??
Judah also beat witter which is much more impressive than beating demarco
Witter was basically a bum when Judah fought him. Constantly going the distance, two draws...LOL...then fought a bunch of setups until he ran into a brick wall named Timothy Bradley.
Bradley fought Witter at Witter's peak. THAT is a decisive win.
Let's try this again. Name a fighter - SEASONED FIGHTER - that Zab Judah beat IN THEIR PRIME, DECISIVELY, that is a better fighter than Antonio DeMarco. You won't find any.
Judah either beat them when they were bums, beat them when they were journeymen, or got beat by them.
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Originally posted by All in View PostCoin toss on zab and Gamboa Leaning towards gamboa because zab was weak between the ears. Broner was just good. Nowhere near as talented as those 2.
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Originally posted by CatchAndShoot View PostListen, I'm not against a little clinch work, and rough house tactics on the inside, because I do agree that you have to know how to combat it, and even do it yourself, but what Hatton did wasn't normal boxing grappling, and clinching. He was on some UFC ish for that fight.
We can't have it both ways. I'd rather just say, if your opponent doesn't do anything to stop it, keep doing it.
I remember Mills Lane once DQ'ng a guy for excessive clinching when he did a fraction of what Grabomir would do. I'm glad those days are gone.
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Originally posted by revelated View PostCory Spinks was essentially a journeyman WHEN JUDAH FOUGHT HIM. Yes.
Witter was basically a bum when Judah fought him. Constantly going the distance, two draws...LOL...then fought a bunch of setups until he ran into a brick wall named Timothy Bradley.
Bradley fought Witter at Witter's peak. THAT is a decisive win.
Let's try this again. Name a fighter - SEASONED FIGHTER - that Zab Judah beat IN THEIR PRIME, DECISIVELY, that is a better fighter than Antonio DeMarco. You won't find any.
Judah either beat them when they were bums, beat them when they were journeymen, or got beat by them.
Lmao..
Undisputed welter champ, that went on to win multiple 154 belts and nearly dethroned middleweight champ jermain taylor and you think he was a journeymen
Witter was a bum
Did you even watch boxing back then or you boxrec'n it
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Originally posted by revelated View PostCory Spinks was essentially a journeyman WHEN JUDAH FOUGHT HIM. Yes.
Witter was basically a bum when Judah fought him. Constantly going the distance, two draws...LOL...then fought a bunch of setups until he ran into a brick wall named Timothy Bradley.
Bradley fought Witter at Witter's peak. THAT is a decisive win.
Let's try this again. Name a fighter - SEASONED FIGHTER - that Zab Judah beat IN THEIR PRIME, DECISIVELY, that is a better fighter than Antonio DeMarco. You won't find any.
Judah either beat them when they were bums, beat them when they were journeymen, or got beat by them.
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I went with Zab Judah. There was a time when he had the potential to reign at the top. He still had a very good career but he could have been one of the best of his era. It's weird that Zab got stopped by Amir Khan later in his career. A prime Zab would have fncked Amir up bad.
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