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Is Mayweather in your Top 10 ATG? Name your Top 10.
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Originally posted by whoelsebutjames View PostTake the name your 40 challenge please.
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Originally posted by whoelsebutjames View PostI'm not going to do the traditional thing and rank fighters I've never seen any footage from. That's illogical to me.
Look at the greats who are consistently ranked in these lists:
greb, srr, armstrong, pep, charles, tunney, langford, benny leonard etc. Most of these men have less than half of their career on films, some almost no footage and one of them zero seconds of fight footage.
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1. Ali
2. Robinson
3. Leonard
4. louis
5. Duran
6. Armstrong
7. Pacquaio
8. Morales
9. Roy Jones
10. Benny leonard
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People are funny, and quick to use the Joe Walcotts, Ezard Charles, Joe Walcotts of the world to flesh out their list..
I find it funny that people will rate fighters they have only hazy recollections and news articles of to come up with 20-30 names to put in front of the best fighter in the last 20 years. Alot of the past fighters had 100's of fights which aren't all on video of in the public domain, took dives for money, fake knockdowns, etc. They were definately tough as nails but most of them by today's standard couldn't fight. Very little technique, no blocking, just stood in front of each other swinging.
If the earliest boxing footage is from 1910, then on average there are nearly 4 fighters per decade more accomplished than Floyd. Actually, mathematically not true because if Floyd dominated a decade and was the most accomplished, then there are 5 fighters per decade greater than him, and nobody else great from this era.
So we're all just watching a sport where everybody's currently trash but we've ran out of black and white footage to rewatch of real fighters. Let's all run home to watch Joe Louis vs Max Schmelling on a Saturday night.Last edited by whoelsebutjames; 09-02-2017, 06:41 PM.
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Originally posted by BKM- View Postlol no kidding. One day it will be a thing of the past to do that, just like the pre-marquess of queensbury boxers are no longer ranked.
Look at the greats who are consistently ranked in these lists:
greb, srr, armstrong, pep, charles, tunney, langford, benny leonard etc. Most of these men have less than half of their career on films, some almost no footage and one of them zero seconds of fight footage.
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I have him and manny in my top 30. The guys higher than that had higher level wins, srl fought less than him but he beat haggler(still on a terror), hearns(prime) and duran(prime) and beneitz(prime), those four wins beat all of money's big wins by far, so i could put him any where near SRL on atg list......SRL and duran is in my top 10.
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