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    Originally posted by Xi_ View Post
    Barrera wasn't prime, Morales was shot to pieces(even then he still managed to whoop Pacquiao in one of their fights) and Marquez beat the living **** outta Poochiao in every one oftheir fights. Ranking him above floyd is objectively absurd.
    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    PAC is greatest of era. 3 wins over jmm. Floyd only has cheated win.
    2 wins over morales, 2 over Barrera, 3 wins against bradley. Those 4 opponents are equal toi Floyd's career a lone.
    PAC just did everything to a grander scale
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
    including SEVEN losses, one in spectacular fashion
    Manny fought them all and won quite a few in spectacular fashion.



    As for losses, you fight risky fights, you can lose some. You fight no risky fights in friendly territory, like Floyd does, then what do you expect?


    To bring up Manny's early fights is a joke and we all know that Manny lost controversial losses against Horn and Bradley in which everyone knows that Manny won ....
    BUT
    lets bring up fights that could have easily gone the other way for Floyd and add this:
    - Castillo fights Floyd TWICE in Mexico. Who wins?
    - Maidana fights Floyd TWICE in Argentina. Who wins? That's 4 losses right there!!!


    and if
    - Manny fights Floyd in the Philippines. Who wins? Floyd would be called "hard" and deducted points for all the bear hugging, head locks,.... not rewarded like he does in Vegas!

    and if
    - The ref correctly DQd Floyd in the Zab Judah fiasco, Floyd would have had another loss! The ref didn't even catch Floyd being knocked down in that one.

    and if
    - Floyd had the balls to fight the riskier fights where the odds were not so much or not in his favor?


    Man, Floyd would have had plenty of losses ....


    BTW:
    Ali lost 5
    Foreman lost 5
    Duran lost 16
    Hopkins lost 8
    Roy Jones lost 9


    People will remember Ali's loss and knocked down to Frazier but that was a big part of Ali and who would want to remove that from the trilogy because of a loss? .... it's historical and memorable.

    Same with Manny's wins and losses with the likes of Barrera, Morales, Marquez, .....

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      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
      Manny fought them all and won quite a few in spectacular fashion.



      As for losses, you fight risky fights, you can lose some. You fight no risky fights in friendly territory, like Floyd does, then what do you expect?


      To bring up Manny's early fights is a joke and we all know that Manny lost controversial losses against Horn and Bradley in which everyone knows that Manny won ....
      BUT
      lets bring up fights that could have easily gone the other way for Floyd and add this:
      - Castillo fights Floyd TWICE in Mexico. Who wins?
      - Maidana fights Floyd TWICE in Argentina. Who wins? That's 4 losses right there!!!


      and if
      - Manny fights Floyd in the Philippines. Who wins? Floyd would be called "hard" and deducted points for all the bear hugging, head locks,.... not rewarded like he does in Vegas!

      and if
      - The ref correctly DQd Floyd in the Zab Judah fiasco, Floyd would have had another loss! The ref didn't even catch Floyd being knocked down in that one.

      and if
      - Floyd had the balls to fight the riskier fights where the odds were not so much or not in his favor?


      Man, Floyd would have had plenty of losses ....


      BTW:
      Ali lost 5
      Foreman lost 5
      Duran lost 16
      Hopkins lost 8
      Roy Jones lost 9


      People will remember Ali's loss and knocked down to Frazier but that was a big part of Ali and who would want to remove that from the trilogy because of a loss? .... it's historical and memorable.

      Same with Manny's wins and losses with the likes of Barrera, Morales, Marquez, .....
      Manny was favored to beat Marquez and those two asian bums that beat the living **** outta him. Foh.....what risk was he taking then? Marquez 3 was a cherrypick gone wrong.

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        Originally posted by Xi_ View Post
        Manny was favored to beat Marquez and those two asian bums that beat the living **** outta him. Foh.....what risk was he taking then? Marquez 3 was a cherrypick gone wrong.
        Cherry picks can go wrong ...

        Maidana was a cherry pick where Floyd even removed his preferred gloves but Floyd was being punched from post to post.


        Marquez was Manny's Frazier. Marquez was never going to be easy for Manny ... Add Memo and it helped Marquez even more ....


        Manny took the risks that Floyd doesn't take.
        Floyd fight out of his country? Go for the KO?
        When was the last fight that he fought out of Vegas?



        You know that Floyd would have had several losses if he fought outside his country and there wouldn't be any controversy with some of those. Now add perhaps a few controversial ones and Floyd would have had plenty of losses.

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          Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          Cherry picks can go wrong ...

          Maidana was a cherry pick where Floyd even removed his preferred gloves but Floyd was being punched from post to post.


          Marquez was Manny's Frazier. Marquez was never going to be easy for Manny ... Add Memo and it helped Marquez even more ....


          Manny took the risks that Floyd doesn't take.
          Floyd fight out of his country? Go for the KO?
          When was the last fight that he fought out of Vegas?



          You know that Floyd would have had several losses if he fought outside his country and would there wouldn't be any controversy with some of those. Now add perhaps a few controversial ones and Floyd would have had plenty of losses.
          Woulda coulda shoulda..*******s have excuses for everything....Pacquiao lost to bums.....Marquez actually koed Pacquiao so the maidana comparison holds no weight.

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            Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
            Being robbed doiesnt make you less greater. Losing don't matter. Every fighter loses. Anyone who doiesnt lose is treated with su****ion. Not revered!

            no, fighters who refuse/obstruct random blood tests are viewed with su****ion

            to normal people anyway

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              Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              Manny fought them all and won quite a few in spectacular fashion.



              As for losses, you fight risky fights, you can lose some. You fight no risky fights in friendly territory, like Floyd does, then what do you expect?


              To bring up Manny's early fights is a joke and we all know that Manny lost controversial losses against Horn and Bradley in which everyone knows that Manny won ....
              BUT
              lets bring up fights that could have easily gone the other way for Floyd and add this:
              - Castillo fights Floyd TWICE in Mexico. Who wins?
              - Maidana fights Floyd TWICE in Argentina. Who wins? That's 4 losses right there!!!


              and if
              - Manny fights Floyd in the Philippines. Who wins? Floyd would be called "hard" and deducted points for all the bear hugging, head locks,.... not rewarded like he does in Vegas!

              and if
              - The ref correctly DQd Floyd in the Zab Judah fiasco, Floyd would have had another loss! The ref didn't even catch Floyd being knocked down in that one.

              and if
              - Floyd had the balls to fight the riskier fights where the odds were not so much or not in his favor?


              Man, Floyd would have had plenty of losses ....


              BTW:
              Ali lost 5
              Foreman lost 5
              Duran lost 16
              Hopkins lost 8
              Roy Jones lost 9


              People will remember Ali's loss and knocked down to Frazier but that was a big part of Ali and who would want to remove that from the trilogy because of a loss? .... it's historical and memorable.

              Same with Manny's wins and losses with the likes of Barrera, Morales, Marquez, .....

              Mayweather fought better competition, and he has NO losses

              just saying

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                Originally posted by Xi_ View Post
                Woulda coulda shoulda..*******s have excuses for everything....Pacquiao lost to bums.....Marquez actually koed Pacquiao so the maidana comparison holds no weight.

                I see that you couldn't deny the truth!

                Maidana wasn't even allowed to wear his "KO gloves". "Health comes first" for Floyd.

                Maidana did great but the Vegas judges were not giving him the credit he deserved in those 6 first rounds. Now as I stated, have the fight in Argentina with 3 Argentinian judges and an Argentinian ref ....


                Who ever did this to Manny?


                and this:


                nice one here:



                Floyd clearly did the stanky leg here but lucky for him it was the end of the round
                [IMG]//media.*****.com/media/JYROVscCTrNuw/*****.gif[/IMG]



                Like I said, Floyd would have had several losses if he was fighting "out of town".


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                Last edited by ADP02; 08-13-2017, 03:06 PM.

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                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                  Mayweather fought better competition, and he has NO losses

                  just saying

                  Floyd knows that he gets the home town favors. He didn't even want the 2nd fight with Castillo to occur in LA because he thought the judges would favor Castillo.

                  Floyd fights Castillo in Mexico, Floyd would have had 2 losses.

                  Floyd fights Maidana in Argentina, Floyd would have had 2 losses.
                  Fight 1 Maidana didn't get the credit that he deserved from the Vegas judges in those first 6 rounds and
                  2nd fight was a disgrace favoritism by KENNY STOP STOP BAYLESS!!!

                  Kenny Bayless actually said that he was ready to deduct points from Maidana because of a previous fight where Bayless deducted 2 points from Maidana. What? How about saying the same with Floyd and his elbows, head locks, low blows, and worst of all in the Maidana fight, the extreme holding,.... ?


                  And the ZAB fight, if it was any other fighter than Floyd, he would have been DQd. I have seen other fights where a team member "accidentally" entered the ring thinking the round was over and they were DQd!



                  Who are Floyd's better opponents?
                  - Berto?
                  - Mcgregor? 0-0 ???
                  - Hatton at 147?
                  - Ortiz?
                  - Guerrero?
                  - Drained out (CW Canelo admitted was hardest thing), bad stamina, slow rate paced, relatively green version of Canelo whose game plan was to outbox Floyd?
                  - Maidana selection if you remember was Floyd selecting the loser of that cherry picked move?
                  and removed Maidana's gloves!
                  - Marquez who moved up 3 divisions and never had fought at 140 nor 147 and Floyd paid Marquez off to come in over the contracted weight limit?



                  Just saying ....


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                    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    Floyd knows that he gets the home town favors. He didn't even want the 2nd fight with Castillo to occur in LA because he thought the judges would favor Castillo.

                    Floyd fights Castillo in Mexico, Floyd would have had 2 losses.

                    Floyd fights Maidana in Argentina, Floyd would have had 2 losses.
                    Fight 1 Maidana didn't get the credit that he deserved from the Vegas judges in those first 6 rounds and
                    2nd fight was a disgrace favoritism by KENNY STOP STOP BAYLESS!!!

                    Kenny Bayless actually said that he was ready to deduct points from Maidana because of a previous fight where Bayless deducted 2 points from Maidana. What? How about saying the same with Floyd and his elbows, head locks, low blows, and worst of all in the Maidana fight, the extreme holding,.... ?


                    And the ZAB fight, if it was any other fighter than Floyd, he would have been DQd. I have seen other fights where a team member "accidentally" entered the ring thinking the round was over and they were DQd!



                    Who are Floyd's better opponents?
                    - Berto?
                    - Mcgregor? 0-0 ???
                    - Hatton at 147?
                    - Ortiz?
                    - Guerrero?
                    - Drained out (CW Canelo admitted was hardest thing), bad stamina, slow rate paced, relatively green version of Canelo whose game plan was to outbox Floyd?
                    - Maidana selection if you remember was Floyd selecting the loser of that cherry picked move?
                    and removed Maidana's gloves!
                    - Marquez who moved up 3 divisions and never had fought at 140 nor 147 and Floyd paid Marquez off to come in over the contracted weight limit?



                    Just saying ....


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                    I am tired of this sillyness

                    when attempting to convince the world that Pacquiao is better than Mayweather, this will be your problem.....

                    Floyd fought better opponents, and he has no losses

                    just saying

                    good luck with your mission

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                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                      I am tired of this sillyness

                      when attempting to convince the world that Pacquiao is better than Mayweather, this will be your problem.....

                      Floyd fought better opponents, and he has no losses

                      just saying

                      good luck with your mission

                      Sorry but you are the one that came up with that line and I responded .... and you couldn't handle it.

                      just saying .....



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