Comments Thread For: Joshua-Klitschko Rematch Could Be on PPV in United States

[JakeTheBoxer]

They are not big names in USA, so I guess they should fight in Europe. Big names in USA are washington, miller and so on.

[NahMean]

Anthony Joshua has had his last four fights featured, live, on Showtime, drawing better and better US numbers as folks got to know who he was. To assume that Joshua is some unknown quantity in the US is laughable.

In a perfect world, Showtime (Joshua's US TV partner) would get the fight outright and Showtime/CBS would weigh out the TV chances of having the rematch on CBS (with things being in the thick of football season, I doubt that that'd be much of an option) or gauging the public interest for the fight as a possible PPV (nothing real scientific about it, but if the interest in a fight is such that T-Mobile Arena is basically sold out before anything else is announced, you're likely talking about a fight that merits PPV

I'm gona it saying he's unknown.. But he's nit a PPV star in the US. More people in the US know who Vlad is than AJ.. It's a bad move to put his first fight in the US on PPV.. here in the UK we will need to pay PPV for all his fights.. This fight will be on at 5am in the UK but it's still gonna be PPV and the UK PPV numbers will still be higher than US PPV numbers.

[NahMean]

lol, if they messed around and put all three of those fights on the same bill, I doubt if you'd even pay for the PPV then.

Joshua-Klitschko was arguably fight of the year, and yet the rematch can't even be considered for PPV? lol

Not on the US.. Neither fighter is American and it's AJ's first fight there.

[Scipio2009]

From the first Joshua-Klitschko fight HBO and Showtime made an agreement that HBO would broadcast the live fight for the rematch and Showtime would broadcast the delayed replay.


I'm just thinking of the 45% take the promoters get, the 45% the MSO's get and the 10% the distributors get.

That would be 5% HBO, 5% Showtime.

For a fight in the U.S. that will get low PPV numbers it doesn't make sense to me. Fights like Floyd-Pac and Lewis-Tyson made sense because of the big PPV numbers
they did.

But in any event, if they do put this fight on PPV I'll support it. I'll buy it, even though their PPV numbers will be low.


But as you mentioned, this might be all for not. Klitschko still hasn't decided on whether he wants to fight Joshua again or not. So we may very well end up getting Joshua-Pulev, Lol.

I get everything that you just said; I'm just pointing out that Showtime/CBS apparently laid out significant money on a longterm deal with Anthony Joshua, while Klitschko and HBO work well together but only have interest on a fight-by-fight basis.

The original agreement, if the fight is brought to the US (a 70k-seat stadium, in Germany or the UK, would've been the obvious choice had the fight gone as expected) or done on PPV, doesn't make sense for Showtime, imo, and would have to be re-worked.

If the move is for HBO PPV (original agreement has HBO with the live rights to the rematch), there's still room to work a deal (HBO pays Showtime half of whatever they get on the PPV, Showtime gets the exclusive re-air of the fight the week after, Showtime gets to have their crew call the fight live, both channels get the fight in their libraries, Showtime gets banner placement above the ring across from HBO)

[The Time]

I get everything that you just said; I'm just pointing out that Showtime/CBS apparently laid out significant money on a longterm deal with Anthony Joshua, while Klitschko and HBO work well together but only have interest on a fight-by-fight basis.

The original agreement, if the fight is brought to the US (a 70k-seat stadium, in Germany or the UK, would've been the obvious choice had the fight gone as expected) or done on PPV, doesn't make sense for Showtime, imo, and would have to be re-worked.

If the move is for HBO PPV (original agreement has HBO with the live rights to the rematch), there's still room to work a deal (HBO pays Showtime half of whatever they get on the PPV, Showtime gets the exclusive re-air of the fight the week after, Showtime gets to have their crew call the fight live, both channels get the fight in their libraries, Showtime gets banner placement above the ring across from HBO)

Yeah, if they decide to go the PPV route. I'm not sure if they will do a joint ppv or what.

But whatever they decide I hope they make a quicker decision this time. Lol

If they do a U.S. PPV I'll buy it. I'll support it.

We will see what happens.

[Scipio2009]

dude to sell ppv in america you have to be a big star who people relate to! No one in america cares about or relates to joshua or wlad..... Ppv is not free tv! This fight will be lucky if it sells 200k ppv...

To sell PPV, you have to convince the audience that the fight/fighter is worth investing that extra money.

In case you forgot, Joshua-Klitschko was picked up by HBO/Showtime for $3m; at $55/$65, you've already topped what you got for the first fight at 200k PPV buys.

Anthony Joshua is a massive, clean-cut, handsome Heavyweight champion who speaks the Queen's English.

If you think that that can't be sold to the casual fan, you're a fool

[Mitchell Kane]

This might be the biggest heavyweight fight to happen in the US since Lennox Lewis retired.

Their first fight got some traction here, might as well see what numbers the rematch can do.

Curious to see what numbers this will do.

[mmakilla]

to sell ppv, you have to convince the audience that the fight/fighter is worth investing that extra money.

In case you forgot, joshua-klitschko was picked up by hbo/showtime for $3m; at $55/$65, you've already topped what you got for the first fight at 200k ppv buys.

Anthony joshua is a massive, clean-cut, handsome heavyweight champion who speaks the queen's english.

If you think that that can't be sold to the casual fan, you're a fool

ward is more famous in america than joshua and he is a gold medal clean cut family man..... He also speaks better than joshua and wlad combined..... His ppv did like 125k lol.... So as i said they would be lucky to do 200k.. Im predicting 100k

[Randall Cunning]

ward is more famous in america than joshua and he is a gold medal clean cut family man..... He also speaks better than joshua and wlad combined..... His ppv did like 125k lol.... So as i said they would be lucky to do 200k.. Im predicting 100k

Think they may try and actually promote this fight though

[mmakilla]

Think they may try and actually promote this fight though

yeah you have a good point there lol....