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Every Pac loss ever...
If you watch the fight at 0.64 speed while listening to Teddy Atlas podcast and score the fight using Harold Lederman's technique than you would realize the Earth is flat and Donald ***** is going to save the word
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Originally posted by Mammoth View PostTell artorias to stop with these videoa
The Press scores:
Majority for Pacquiao the true winner!
Full scores:
Bob Velin (USA Today) – 115-112 Pacquiao
Nick Tylwalk (FanSided) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Steve Bunce (BoxNation) – 115-113 Horn
Mike Sloan (Sherdog) – 116-111 Pacquiao
Gary Randall (Sherdog) – 116-112 Horn
Mike Fridley (Sherdog) – 115-112 Horn
Gary Parrish (CBS Sports) – Pacquiao won
Brian Campbell (CBS Sports) – 114-114
Jason McIntyre (Fox Sports 1) – Pacquiao won
Dieter Kurtenbach (Fox Sports) – Pacquiao won
Skip Bayless (Fox Sports) – Horn won
Josh Katzowitz (Forbes) – 115-112 Pacquiao
Brian Mazique (Forbes) – 114-114
Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow) – Pacquiao won
Bad Left Hook – 116-111 and 115-113 Pacquiao
Mike Coppinger (Ring ****zine) – Pacquiao won
Michael Rosenthal (Ring ****zine) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Ryan ******** (Ring ****zine and Rappler) – 117-110 Pacquiao
Doug Fischer (Ring ****zine) – 116-112 or 115-113 Pacquiao
Tom Gray (Ring ****zine) – “Had Horn wide mate.”
Mike Baca II (Ring ****zine and Undisputed Champion Network) – “I’ve already rewatched. 115-113 Pac was the lowest I could go…”
Steve Kim (Undisputed Champion Network) – Pacquiao won
Lance Pugmire (LA Times) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Boxing News – 115-113 Pacquiao (Verdict: Close fight, no robbery)
Michael Wilbon (ESPN) – Pacquiao won
Dan Rafael (ESPN) – 117-111 Pacquiao
Marcellus Wiley (ESPN) – Pacquiao won
Ramona Shelburne (ESPN) – Pacquiao won
Nigel Collins (ESPN) – 114-113 Pacquiao (“Disagree w/ the “robbery” talk.”)
Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) – Pacquiao robbed!!!!
Teddy Atlas (ESPN) – 116-111 Pacquiao
Arash markazi (ESPN) – Pacquiao won
T.J. Quinn (ESPN) – Pacquiao won (“This is a hometown hit job. Manny looked old, but mostly in control.”)
Salvador Rodriguez (ESPN) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Greg Bishop (Sports Illustrated) – 117-111 Pacquiao
Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports) – “I could see a draw or close for Pac”
Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports) – Pacquiao won
Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports) – 115-113 for Pacquiao
Gareth A. Davies (The Telegraph) – 115-113 Pacquiao
Jay Cowan (Spike Sports) – 115-112 Pacquiao
Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV) – “I had him (Pacquiao) up by one point.”
Jonathan Snowden (Bleacher Report) – “I had Manny Pacquiao in a close fight.”
BoxingScene – 116-112 Pacquiao
Ryan Phillips (The Big Lead) – 116-111 Pacquiao
Lennox Lewis – Pacquiao won
Lou DiBella (promoter) – 116-112 Pacquiao
DJ Gallo (The Guardian) – 117-111 pacquiao
Ben Thompson (Fight Hype) – 115-112 Pacquiao
Jeff Powell (The Daily Mail) – Pacquiao robbed
Bob Sheridan (commentator) – 114-114
Paulie Malignaggi – “I had horn by a point…”
Eric Raskin (Former writer for ESPN and Grantland) – 114-114
Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) – 114-114 (“Cd. have gone either way.”)
Martin Chesnutt (Boxing Monthly) – 115-112 Pacquiao (“…but was comfortable with 115-113 either way.”)
Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly) – 116-113 Horn
Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing and Transnational Boxing Rankings board member) – 116-111 Pacquiao
Rafael G (The Fight City) – “Pacquiao won by 2 or 3 points.”
Lee Wylie (The Fight City) – Pacquiao won (“…certainly not a robbery. Close fight.”)
Patrick Connor (BWAA/IBRO member) – Pacquiao won
Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Behind the Gloves – 117-110 Pacquiao
Erik Morales – Pacquiao robbed
Juan Manuel Marquez – 116-112 Pacquiao
Timothy Bradley – Pacquiao won (very close fight)
Guillermo Rigondeaux – Pacquiao won
Kobe Bryant – Pac
55 for Pacquiao, 7 for Horn, 5 draw
_____Last edited by Spoon23; 07-07-2017, 09:40 AM.
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Originally posted by Spoon23 View PostHe's just supporting the truth that you couldn't see.
The Press scores:
Majority for Pacquiao the true winner!
Full scores:
Bob Velin (USA Today) – 115-112 Pacquiao
Nick Tylwalk (FanSided) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Steve Bunce (BoxNation) – 115-113 Horn
Mike Sloan (Sherdog) – 116-111 Pacquiao
Gary Randall (Sherdog) – 116-112 Horn
Mike Fridley (Sherdog) – 115-112 Horn
Gary Parrish (CBS Sports) – Pacquiao won
Brian Campbell (CBS Sports) – 114-114
Jason McIntyre (Fox Sports 1) – Pacquiao won
Dieter Kurtenbach (Fox Sports) – Pacquiao won
Skip Bayless (Fox Sports) – Horn won
Josh Katzowitz (Forbes) – 115-112 Pacquiao
Brian Mazique (Forbes) – 114-114
Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow) – Pacquiao won
Bad Left Hook – 116-111 and 115-113 Pacquiao
Mike Coppinger (Ring ****zine) – Pacquiao won
Michael Rosenthal (Ring ****zine) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Ryan ******** (Ring ****zine and Rappler) – 117-110 Pacquiao
Doug Fischer (Ring ****zine) – 116-112 or 115-113 Pacquiao
Tom Gray (Ring ****zine) – “Had Horn wide mate.”
Mike Baca II (Ring ****zine and Undisputed Champion Network) – “I’ve already rewatched. 115-113 Pac was the lowest I could go…”
Steve Kim (Undisputed Champion Network) – Pacquiao won
Lance Pugmire (LA Times) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Boxing News – 115-113 Pacquiao (Verdict: Close fight, no robbery)
Michael Wilbon (ESPN) – Pacquiao won
Dan Rafael (ESPN) – 117-111 Pacquiao
Marcellus Wiley (ESPN) – Pacquiao won
Ramona Shelburne (ESPN) – Pacquiao won
Nigel Collins (ESPN) – 114-113 Pacquiao (“Disagree w/ the “robbery” talk.”)
Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) – Pacquiao robbed!!!!
Teddy Atlas (ESPN) – 116-111 Pacquiao
Arash markazi (ESPN) – Pacquiao won
T.J. Quinn (ESPN) – Pacquiao won (“This is a hometown hit job. Manny looked old, but mostly in control.”)
Salvador Rodriguez (ESPN) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Greg Bishop (Sports Illustrated) – 117-111 Pacquiao
Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports) – “I could see a draw or close for Pac”
Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports) – Pacquiao won
Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports) – 115-113 for Pacquiao
Gareth A. Davies (The Telegraph) – 115-113 Pacquiao
Jay Cowan (Spike Sports) – 115-112 Pacquiao
Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV) – “I had him (Pacquiao) up by one point.”
Jonathan Snowden (Bleacher Report) – “I had Manny Pacquiao in a close fight.”
BoxingScene – 116-112 Pacquiao
Ryan Phillips (The Big Lead) – 116-111 Pacquiao
Lennox Lewis – Pacquiao won
Lou DiBella (promoter) – 116-112 Pacquiao
DJ Gallo (The Guardian) – 117-111 pacquiao
Ben Thompson (Fight Hype) – 115-112 Pacquiao
Jeff Powell (The Daily Mail) – Pacquiao robbed
Bob Sheridan (commentator) – 114-114
Paulie Malignaggi – “I had horn by a point…”
Eric Raskin (Former writer for ESPN and Grantland) – 114-114
Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) – 114-114 (“Cd. have gone either way.”)
Martin Chesnutt (Boxing Monthly) – 115-112 Pacquiao (“…but was comfortable with 115-113 either way.”)
Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly) – 116-113 Horn
Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing and Transnational Boxing Rankings board member) – 116-111 Pacquiao
Rafael G (The Fight City) – “Pacquiao won by 2 or 3 points.”
Lee Wylie (The Fight City) – Pacquiao won (“…certainly not a robbery. Close fight.”)
Patrick Connor (BWAA/IBRO member) – Pacquiao won
Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Behind the Gloves – 117-110 Pacquiao
Erik Morales – Pacquiao robbed
Juan Manuel Marquez – 116-112 Pacquiao
Timothy Bradley – Pacquiao won (very close fight)
Guillermo Rigondeaux – Pacquiao won
Kobe Bryant – …….
55 for Pacquiao, 7 for Horn, 5 draw
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However it is evident the beating Manny suffered at the hands of school teacher Horn has left you tramatized.
The damage caused to your psyche is irrevocable and all hope for you has been completely eradicated.
What a shame.
Poor pact@rd.
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Didn't we already go over this with Pac vs Marquez III?
The majority of the press scored it for Marquez, did you declare him the winner in that one?
And more importantly, so what if the press scored it for Pac? His record says L. Nothing can change that. It's sad but it's the truth.
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Originally posted by Sup View PostDidn't we already go over this with Pac vs Marquez III?
The majority of the press scored it for Marquez, did you declare him the winner in that one?
And more importantly, so what if the press scored it for Pac? His record says L. Nothing can change that. It's sad but it's the truth.
Comparison
55 for Pacquiao, 7 for Horn, 5 draw. 82% picked Pacquiao as the winner compare to Horn 10%
57 for Marquez, 51 Pacquiao, and the remaining 36 scored the bout a draw. 40% Marquez, 35% Pacquiao
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Originally posted by gamesworn View PostPlease stop comparing Pacquiao-Marquez III to Pacquiao-Horn. Marquez III fight was a close fight, Horn fight was a robbery
Comparison
55 for Pacquiao, 7 for Horn, 5 draw. 82% picked Pacquiao as the winner compare to Horn 10%
57 for Marquez, 51 Pacquiao, and the remaining 36 scored the bout a draw. 40% Marquez, 35% Pacquiao
A robbery is when a fight is completely one sided the entire way through and he still loses.
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Originally posted by Spoon23 View PostHe's just supporting the truth that you couldn't see.
The Press scores:
Majority for Pacquiao the true winner!
Full scores:
Bob Velin (USA Today) – 115-112 Pacquiao
Nick Tylwalk (FanSided) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Steve Bunce (BoxNation) – 115-113 Horn
Mike Sloan (Sherdog) – 116-111 Pacquiao
Gary Randall (Sherdog) – 116-112 Horn
Mike Fridley (Sherdog) – 115-112 Horn
Gary Parrish (CBS Sports) – Pacquiao won
Brian Campbell (CBS Sports) – 114-114
Jason McIntyre (Fox Sports 1) – Pacquiao won
Dieter Kurtenbach (Fox Sports) – Pacquiao won
Skip Bayless (Fox Sports) – Horn won
Josh Katzowitz (Forbes) – 115-112 Pacquiao
Brian Mazique (Forbes) – 114-114
Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow) – Pacquiao won
Bad Left Hook – 116-111 and 115-113 Pacquiao
Mike Coppinger (Ring ****zine) – Pacquiao won
Michael Rosenthal (Ring ****zine) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Ryan ******** (Ring ****zine and Rappler) – 117-110 Pacquiao
Doug Fischer (Ring ****zine) – 116-112 or 115-113 Pacquiao
Tom Gray (Ring ****zine) – “Had Horn wide mate.”
Mike Baca II (Ring ****zine and Undisputed Champion Network) – “I’ve already rewatched. 115-113 Pac was the lowest I could go…”
Steve Kim (Undisputed Champion Network) – Pacquiao won
Lance Pugmire (LA Times) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Boxing News – 115-113 Pacquiao (Verdict: Close fight, no robbery)
Michael Wilbon (ESPN) – Pacquiao won
Dan Rafael (ESPN) – 117-111 Pacquiao
Marcellus Wiley (ESPN) – Pacquiao won
Ramona Shelburne (ESPN) – Pacquiao won
Nigel Collins (ESPN) – 114-113 Pacquiao (“Disagree w/ the “robbery” talk.”)
Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) – Pacquiao robbed!!!!
Teddy Atlas (ESPN) – 116-111 Pacquiao
Arash markazi (ESPN) – Pacquiao won
T.J. Quinn (ESPN) – Pacquiao won (“This is a hometown hit job. Manny looked old, but mostly in control.”)
Salvador Rodriguez (ESPN) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Greg Bishop (Sports Illustrated) – 117-111 Pacquiao
Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports) – “I could see a draw or close for Pac”
Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports) – Pacquiao won
Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports) – 115-113 for Pacquiao
Gareth A. Davies (The Telegraph) – 115-113 Pacquiao
Jay Cowan (Spike Sports) – 115-112 Pacquiao
Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV) – “I had him (Pacquiao) up by one point.”
Jonathan Snowden (Bleacher Report) – “I had Manny Pacquiao in a close fight.”
BoxingScene – 116-112 Pacquiao
Ryan Phillips (The Big Lead) – 116-111 Pacquiao
Lennox Lewis – Pacquiao won
Lou DiBella (promoter) – 116-112 Pacquiao
DJ Gallo (The Guardian) – 117-111 pacquiao
Ben Thompson (Fight Hype) – 115-112 Pacquiao
Jeff Powell (The Daily Mail) – Pacquiao robbed
Bob Sheridan (commentator) – 114-114
Paulie Malignaggi – “I had horn by a point…”
Eric Raskin (Former writer for ESPN and Grantland) – 114-114
Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) – 114-114 (“Cd. have gone either way.”)
Martin Chesnutt (Boxing Monthly) – 115-112 Pacquiao (“…but was comfortable with 115-113 either way.”)
Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly) – 116-113 Horn
Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing and Transnational Boxing Rankings board member) – 116-111 Pacquiao
Rafael G (The Fight City) – “Pacquiao won by 2 or 3 points.”
Lee Wylie (The Fight City) – Pacquiao won (“…certainly not a robbery. Close fight.”)
Patrick Connor (BWAA/IBRO member) – Pacquiao won
Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Behind the Gloves – 117-110 Pacquiao
Erik Morales – Pacquiao robbed
Juan Manuel Marquez – 116-112 Pacquiao
Timothy Bradley – Pacquiao won (very close fight)
Guillermo Rigondeaux – Pacquiao won
Kobe Bryant – …….
55 for Pacquiao, 7 for Horn, 5 draw
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Errol Spence
Andre Berto
Gabe Rosado
Claressa Shields
Devon Alexander
Billy Joe Saunders
Sergio Mora
Ray Beltran
Cornelius Bundrage
all had Pacquiao as the winner
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