Comments Thread For: Jeff Horn Shocks Manny Pacquiao in Blood-Filled Upset!

[ConRaffery]

Manny Pacquiao hit this overachieving, handpicked, heavy betting underdog opponent with every thing he had but yet he was still standing after twelve rounds. If anything, this is an indictment on Pac's skills. I think they are deteriorating and it's time for him to retire. Why, because he just might get knocked out in the rematch?

Do you think pac is a defeated fighter for the rematch already and will take a dive if it happens?

[bronx7]

Who's Face swollen bleeding busted up? Whose head tore up by illegal butts all night?

[stephenmc]

Still doesn't mean you give him the fight including a ridiculous score of 117-111. That's why some folks think boxing' s a joke.

Well I think horn did enough, 2points sway either way is no problem either.
But ya 100% the 117-111 was a far 2 wide.

[Boxing Logic]

I had it 115-113 Horn.

I had it 114-113 for Horn as well. I'm a big Pacquiao fan but he looked like **** all night, barely landed the straight left clean all night except the 9th round, and after two flurries to end that round he was spent the rest of the fight and gave away the final three rounds to Horn, after already failing to take control the first 8 rounds. You can't give away the last three rounds, and the first round, and split the middle rounds or maybe win them 5-3, and expect to win. His stamina is gone to **** and his style relies on high punch output, especially at welterweight where his opponents are too big to hurt with single shots. If he's going to fight with such low punch output, he needs to move down in weight where he can hurt guys with single shots.

I think everyone was fooled by the commentary, just like Kovalev-Ward. Atlas dominated the commentary and gave Pacquiao almost every close round. He ignored clean shots by Horn and kept saying Pacquiao was landing clean and Horn wasn't even when Horn kept connecting the right to the head all night and outworked Pacquiao to the body as well. Pacquiao's left looked old and just a tiny bit slow all night so he either just missed Horn or hit him with glancing shots, very rarely did he catch Horn flush. Atlas was imagining all the clean shots Pacquiao was landing, because he wasn't landing clean anymore than Horn was, and Horn outworked him.

Horn did use his head a ton though. Not as bad or intentionally as Ward, but he fought pretty dirty. Just in terms of punches landed though, compubox is complete fiction, and I do believe Horn outlanded Pacquiao. Pacquiao looked bad against Vargas but the commentators shilled for him then too. He did beat Vargas, mostly because he finally caught Vargas and knocked him down and then took over after that. But if he hadn't dropped Vargas he might have lost that fight too, because before that moment that fight looked a lot like this, with Pacquiao barely throwing punches and struggling to catch Vargas clean because he looked slow.

He's old. This was no robbery at all. You could give it to Pacquiao close but he was far from dominant.

[Brz_Pugilist]

Manny Pacquiao hit this overachieving, handpicked, heavy betting underdog opponent with every thing he had but yet he was still standing after twelve rounds. If anything, this is an indictment on Pac's skills. I think they are deteriorating and it's time for him to retire. Why, because he just might get knocked out in the rematch?

He's old but I think it had do more with his opponent and his strange style not to mention he looked like a damn middleweight. He looked like he was on the juice. He made it an ugly style fight and used some dirty tactics

[Carmaine]

I had Manny winning the fight comfortably.

But something doesn't seem right. He mentioned twice that he respects the judge's decision, but where was this "act of graciousness" when he lost to Mayweather? During that fight, he actually said he thought he won.

And after the horn fight, he mentions it's ok because they have a rematch clause and he's already good with facing him again in Brisbane. Weird....

[bronx7]

You reward effective... aggression not missing 3/4 punches aggression

[ConRaffery]

I had it 114-113 for Horn as well. I'm a big Pacquiao fan but he looked like **** all night, barely landed the straight left clean all night except the 9th round, and after two flurries to end that round he was spent the rest of the fight and gave away the final three rounds to Horn, after already failing to take control the first 8 rounds. You can't give away the last three rounds, and the first round, and fight split the middle rounds, and expect to win. His stamina is gone to ****.

I think everyone was fooled by the commentary, just like Kovalev-Ward. Atlas dominated the commentary and gave Pacquiao almost every close round. He ignored clean shots by Horn and kept saying Pacquiao was landing clean and Horn wasn't even when Horn kept connecting the right to the head all night and outworked Pacquiao to the body as well. Pacquiao's left looked old and just a tiny bit slow all night so he either just missed Horn or hit him with glancing shots, very rarely did he catch Horn flush.

Horn did use his head a ton though. Not as bad or intentionally as Ward, but he fought pretty dirty. Just in terms of punches landed though, compubox is complete fiction, and I do believe Horn outlanded Pacquiao. Pacquiao looked bad against Vargas but the commentators shilled for him then too. He did beat Vargas, mostly because he finally caught Vargas and knocked him down and then took over after that. But if he hadn't dropped Vargas he might have lost that fight too, because before that moment that fight looked a lot like this, with Pacquiao barely throwing punches and struggling to catch Vargas clean because he looked slow.

He's old. This was no robbery at all. You could give it to Pacquiao close but he was far from dominant.

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[bngsdad]

First time Manny was favored 6-1... You guys think he sold it? That is some big bucks

[bronx7]

When compu box punch stats come out it will be no contest kid missed a lot plus was huge tonight leaning all over manny