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    #31
    Originally posted by death_adder View Post
    the holiday weekend excuse again? You idiot. That would've been more of an excuse to watch the fight. Where are the stats that people weren't home? Post some.

    Sure spence did 6 million, but that was coming off of piggy packing of team usa's basketball gold medal win. Put him in any other time, he won't draw, as was evidence last week.

    Btw, canelo does 18 million in his home country, can draw 50k, and sells ppvs. You mean to tell me if canelo and spence were put on separate cards/channels on the same day, spence would out draw him? You're an idiot.
    no one believes those phony 3rd world mexico numbers lmfaooooo....

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      #32
      Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
      Spence drew what 500 fans in a airport bunker in the Bundu fight? lol You don't think he can draw more fans then that if they have him fighting consistently in Dallas? Spence would kill for Broner's attendance and draw figures in Cinci. Broner drew more viewers to watch him on Showtime against granados then Broner did to watch him fight Brook and Brook is a much bigger name then granados.
      We're talking selling tickets not ratings. It doesn't matter where Broner fights, his ratings will always be good.

      The reason Easter Jr can sell more tickets in his hometown than Broner can in his is because there's nothing going on in Toledo but the Mudhens. Just like there's nothing going on in Omaha but the Storm Chasers. Easter Jr and Crawford are their city's professional sports team.

      Cincinatti has two pro sports teams, two major colleges with good basketball teams, and a lot of Kentucky residents who are diehard Louiville and UK fans. When the Broner fight was made they couldn't get the US Bank arena because something else was booked. The night of the fight there was a concert at US Bank and a big comedy show the night before (I think it was Dave Chappele). Announced attendace for the fight was 6,000. Now remind you, Cincinnati is a boxing city. They got a mural and street named after Ezzard Charles, and they love Aaron Pryor, they have boxing gyms all over the city and they put on a lot of small cards there and the amateur scene is big there. But my point is there is a lot of other stuff going on that boxing has to compete against. Cincy isn't even that big. Now imagine the shit going on in Dallas that boxing would have to compete with.

      You think it's smarter to try and headline Spence vs Van Heerden in Dallas the friday before the cowboys play at home rather than put him on a televised Stevenson's undercard in Canada? Or maybe you thought it would've been smart to put him in Dallas against Bundu the day after the Cowboys played at AT&T Stadium?

      You can't just throw a guy in his hometown and expect people to come. Boxing has to compete for dollars against other entertainment. And one thing you don't want to do is have him going against the Cowboys and the Mavericks. He's at the point now where he has enough buzz in his city. Cowboy players are starting to talk about him. Dez Bryant is one of his biggest fans. He's done promos with the Dallas Mavericks. Now he's ready to fight in Dallas and compete for dollars against the other entertainment in the city. There's a lot of shit going on in Dallas.

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        #33
        Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
        So Sunrise, Florida is a better boxing town then Dallas and that's why he's fought there more then Dallas? There is no venue in or around Dallas one of the biggest markets in the entire country so Spence has to fight in florida, NY and Canada instead? child please. PBC dropped the ball simple as that.
        Sunrise Florida was his 9th pro fight and that was under Golden Boy not PBC.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
          Nice. I was legit worried PBC was gonna sit on Spence til November or later the way the activity has been with the top guys these days.

          I'm rooting on Shawn Porter being the guy. I think that's the best guy available & that would bump his Q score the most.

          Garcia wouldn't be bad either & is probably the easier fight with almost as much upside & maybe arguably more upside then Porter.

          I'd have lil desire to see Peterson vs Spence as I think that's a good name obviously, but it seems a level or two below Garcia & Porter & isn't really gonna bounce his popularity much I don't believe. It would be a easy-ish fight doe so if a easy-ish first defense with a good name is what they are looking for with this hometown venue then Peterson is the guy.

          Also wtf looking at those rankings. That's a complete sh^t show of a top 15 rankings with all the high quality guys at 147.
          All voluntary defenses have to be ranked within the top 15 of the IBF rankings. Garcia and Porter I don't think are ranked, therefore Spence can't fight any either of those two as a voluntary.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Mike D View Post
            I'll be there in person if it's in Dallas, and all indications are it's going to be.

            I grew up in the same Dallas suburb as Errol (DeSoto). Contrary to popular belief I'm not actually a trailer park trash motherf**ker with a mullet who lives in Shelby, North Carolina.
            How big of a fight town is Dallas? Do ya'll have a lot of small promotes putting on cards every month? A lot of gyms? A nice amateur scene? What type of competition would spence have to compete with on an average weekend in terms of vying for entertainment dollars? Comedy show? Clubs? Rodeos? BBQ tastefest?

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              #36
              Originally posted by BigZ44 View Post
              Isn't Ponomarev the mandatory? That would make sense for a home defense
              ... Spence doesn't have any "mandatory" to date... He just took the IBF belt... starting from November, IBF will provide a mandatory...

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                #37
                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                How big of a fight town is Dallas? Do ya'll have a lot of small promotes putting on cards every month? A lot of gyms? A nice amateur scene? What type of competition would spence have to compete with on an average weekend in terms of vying for entertainment dollars? Comedy show? Clubs? Rodeos? BBQ tastefest?
                Not exactly known as a fight town, although it has hosted some cards in recent memory...the Canelo/Liam PPV (AT&T Stadium), Pacquiao/Margarito PPV (AT&T Stadium), Pacquiao/Clottey PPV (AT&T Stadium), Mikey Garcia vs Juan Manuel Lopez (American Airlines Center; Terence Crawford also fought on this card), and Spence has fought here also at The Bomb Factory (normally a small music venue) downtown against...Alejandro Barrera, I think?

                As far as an average weekend goes, it's a major metropolitan area with some 7 million people in it (when you include neighboring Fort Worth). So there's always a lot going on. But as far as September goes, the only thing that they'd really have to worry about competing with is the Cowboys, and they'd be playing on Sunday or Monday so I really don't see that as an issue. Other than that the only other active professional sports team that would be playing at that time would be the Rangers and they're like 15 games out of the division already.

                Spence is the only hometown star fighter that Dallas really has, and he's a P4P guy so people will jump on the bandwagon. AT&T is too f**king massive but I think he'd do well at the American Airlines Center (home of the Mavericks), or even the Cowboys' new state of the art practice facility (which was going to be the site of the Cotto/Kirkland PPV).
                Last edited by Mike D; 06-05-2017, 09:46 AM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Mike D View Post
                  Not exactly known as a fight town, although it has hosted some cards in recent memory...the Canelo/Liam PPV (AT&T Stadium), Pacquiao/Margarito PPV (AT&T Stadium), Pacquiao/Clottey PPV (AT&T Stadium), Mikey Garcia vs Juan Manuel Lopez (American Airlines Center; Terence Crawford also fought on this card), and Spence has fought here also at The Bomb Factory (normally a small music venue) downtown against...Alejandro Barrera, I think?

                  As far as an average weekend goes, it's a major metropolitan area with some 7 million people in it. So there's always a lot going on. But as far as September goes, the only thing that they'd have to worry about competing with is the Cowboys, and they'd be playing on Sunday or Monday so I really don't see that as an issue. And the only other professional sports team that would be playing at that time would be the Rangers and they're like 15 games out of the division already.

                  Spence is the only hometown star fighter that Dallas really has, and he's a P4P guy so people will jump on the bandwagon. AT&T is too f**king massive but I think he'd do well at the American Airlines Center (home of the Mavericks), or even the Cowboys' new state of the art practice facility (which was going to be the site of the Cotto/Kirkland PPV).
                  That's what I'm saying. You can't just throw guys in their hometowns and expect people to come just because it's their hometown. You gotta be built up to compete against the other forms of entertainment for those dollars when you're thowing shows in major metro areas. When Dallas has fights they have big names fight there because there's so much other stuff to do on the average weekend.


                  Crawford and Easter Jr will always sell in Omaha and Toledo. I think now is the perfect time for Spence to headline a show in Dallas. Now he's got the city's attention. But these guys think he should've been headlining Cowboy stadium against Chris Van Herdeen

                  People come from Toledo to Detroit on the weekend because there ain't **** to do in Toledo

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                    A lot of gyms? A nice amateur scene?
                    My guess is it's probably average. At best. I mean as far as the amateur scene goes. Same thing with the number of boxing gyms...there's more MMA gyms around here than boxing gyms. And probably by a wide margin from what I've seen personally.

                    Spence's gym that he trains at when he's here is probably...idk, like less than 10 miles from where I live? It's a tiny little gym in a nondescript shopping strip.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                      But these guys think he should've been headlining Cowboy stadium against Chris Van Herdeen
                      No. Maybe down the road it can't be ruled out if he continues on this meteoric trajectory. I mean he'd have to ascend to PPV superstar staus. Which is like the biggest if in the damn world. He's a terrific fighter and is on his way to really big things but as you know reaching actual legitimate PPV star status is an extremely, extremely rare thing in this sport.

                      But yeah as of now that (AT&T Stadium) couldn't even be considered. That **** would be laughable. It's still boxing after all. If you ask the average Dallas casual sports fan if they know who Errol Spence is -- they wouldn't.
                      Last edited by Mike D; 06-05-2017, 09:59 AM.

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