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    #11
    Originally posted by AREALFIGHTER
    Yes I do but even when they put fighters records and who they fought on tv they usually tell this or that guy was good that they beat or lost to with many of these guys they don't say anthing cause there is nothing to say they havent fought anyone ya know.
    the average boxing fan will still pay attention

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      #12
      Originally posted by AREALFIGHTER
      Fighters have always padded their records since the sport started. What I really wonder is why fighters with extensive amature careers pad their records so much. I can understand getting 5-8 fights under your belt agienst limited guys and then start stepping it up steadily. I understand that the amatures is not like the pro's but these guys obviously have good skills if they were successful at the amature level. There are a few out there that have chosen the paths of more resistance guys like Alexander Povetkin and Lucian Bute. They both have steped up agienst solid guys early in their careers to name some prospects now. Look at HW Kevin Johnson half his fights have been agianst top journy men or fringe contenders in only 9 fights. It just bugs me that guys run their records to like 20-0 and have fought nobody like say JD Chapmen. What do you guys think about padding records. Personally I have a lot of respect for guys who take a more challanging path and earn their records.
      The amatuer game is much different from the pros. Have you ever considered that fighters need to be exposed to many different styles, before they are put in with a world class fighter? A good manager will expose their boxer to different styles and different situations so that they can be prepared in a world class fight. I would never as a manager or pro fighter, put myself or my green fighter in with a world class fighter. Experience is just as important as talent. Ability is nothing without the wisdom and experience to put them into effective use.

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        #13
        Originally posted by mystyal2k5
        the average boxing fan will still pay attention
        there is no dought about that. They truelly run the risk of being a dud if they can't win as they step it up and its kinda embarasing I think to have this overblown record and not be able to back it up agienst solid comp

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          #14
          you have to get a padded record, you really cant move up the ranks without one which means no title shot.

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            #15
            Originally posted by machotime
            The amatuer game is much different from the pros. Have you ever considered that fighters need to be exposed to many different styles, before they are put in with a world class fighter? A good manager will expose their boxer to different styles and different situations so that they can be prepared in a world class fight. I would never as a manager or pro fighter, put myself or my green fighter in with a world class fighter. Experience is just as important as talent. Ability is nothing without the wisdom and experience to put them into effective use.
            Yes I have and I think I said that. However for me its nice to see guys that are willing to take risks because they are confident in there skills. I know exactly why guys have padded records and the diffrence between the pro and amature game. What I am wondering is how you guys feel about it. You have guys that win titles and have less than 20 fights or even 15 or just three like that one Tai guy I forget his name at least I think he is Tai. I can understand needing to get adjusted to a new enviorment however but sometimes it seems like they get their handles held to much.

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              #16
              Originally posted by The Iceman
              you have to get a padded record, you really cant move up the ranks without one which means no title shot.
              there are those cases were inexperanced pros get chances to fight better comp like as stepins and such and they win. Some keep on winning two. Your are right however in that is the way its usually done.

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                #17
                Originally posted by AREALFIGHTER
                Yes I have and I think I said that. However for me its nice to see guys that are willing to take risks because they are confident in there skills. I know exactly why guys have padded records and the diffrence between the pro and amature game. What I am wondering is how you guys feel about it. You have guys that win titles and have less than 20 fights or even 15 or just three like that one Tai guy I forget his name at least I think he is Tai. I can understand needing to get adjusted to a new enviorment however but sometimes it seems like they get their handles held to much.
                20 fights is not having a padded record. Also, sometimes the fighters are under contract with a horrible manager, who has them fight just anyone. Many times it is not up to the fighter.

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                  #18
                  I am just amazed when a guy with little experance goes in there and fights a guy that everyone thinks will beat him because he has more experance and has fought better fighters. That shows a lot of confidence and belief. Its refreshing that there are some guys who are say 8-0 10-0 that have real skills an can be compedative or even beat better guys.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by machotime
                    20 fights is not having a padded record. Also, sometimes the fighters are under contract with a horrible manager, who has them fight just anyone. Many times it is not up to the fighter.
                    thats really true good point

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                      #20
                      a padded record is jeff lacy

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