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    #81
    Originally posted by harwri008 View Post
    This is why Canelo is becoming my least favorite fighter. Why is he talking Mayweather/Pacquiao when he's about to put on a H.S. after school fight with Chavez? Which new fan is expecting to gain by fighting Chavez when the fact that Junior made weight has been the most intriguing thing about this match up. PPV is hurting because there really isn't any interesting personalities in the sport right now and there is huge competition from the UFC. The most talented boxer is resorting to dressing up in kiddie costumes and clowning in the ring to generate some interest in himself.


    Exactly the only way canelo would gain new fans if he beat ggg.

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      #82
      Originally posted by hitking View Post
      The fight wasn't a disaster and it didn't hurt boxing. Because 95% of the people that watched aren't boxing fans. And will never be boxing fans. A lot of stars had to align to make an event reach the magnitude of Floyd-Manny. And it probably never happen again.

      The only travesty coming outta that fight is supposed fight fans acting like butt hurt teenage girls, b1tching and moaning because their guy didn't win.
      More like, 95% of those watching assumed Floyd would adopt a style contrary to his normal style, rather than be properly disappointed at Manny failing to show up and lying after the fact.

      Manny Pacquiao is the sole reason for why people were upset at the fight. We got exactly what we expected from TBE: nullifying his opponent over 12.

      If you watched Mayweather/Canelo, you knew how Mayweather/Pacquiao was going down.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Butch.McRae View Post
        Exactly! It's really not hard to understand lol all this pointless analysis, when the answer is clear.

        If people actually go check the history of PPV a guy like Canelo will never get 1 million buys without a legit dance partner.

        There have only ever been four true 1 million buy PPV stars in the history of the sport; Tyson, Oscar, Floyd, and Manny(although less consistent than the other three).

        The rest of the PPV buy history is full of 300k fights or lower, with only a half dozen or so exceptions; where the fight was a big deal competitively.

        This reminds me of the Tiger Woods problem in golf. He had so much success that people think a golfer is only successful if he wins a major.

        Floyd moved the bar so far financially in boxing that people now have unrealistic expectations about how PPV buys are supposed to work. Go check Oscar's numbers, Tyson's numbers, Manny's...Floyd just had a crazy run where all his fights cleared 900k buys for like 8 years straight. That's not realistic. Nobody ever did that.

        Canelo's numbers actually aren't that bad in comparison to history, but people thinks he's supposed to do mayweather numbers. That's not realistic, unless he's in a competitive fight.

        There are huge boxing stars that couldn't sell any PPVs. Just Google "Pay Per View" and look at the data on the wiki page. Learn something people.

        Very well said.

        Boxing fans got spoiled by the PPV numbers of May-Pac Era, but those numbers were historical anomalies.

        Especially for non-HWs.

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          #84
          What a pointless discussion. Canelo has become the biggest diva in boxing. Picks who he'll fight and whines and *****es constantly. Better change out that vagina for some balls.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Butch.McRae View Post
            Exactly! It's really not hard to understand lol all this pointless analysis, when the answer is clear.

            If people actually go check the history of PPV a guy like Canelo will never get 1 million buys without a legit dance partner.

            There have only ever been four true 1 million buy PPV stars in the history of the sport; Tyson, Oscar, Floyd, and Manny(although less consistent than the other three).

            The rest of the PPV buy history is full of 300k fights or lower, with only a half dozen or so exceptions; where the fight was a big deal competitively.

            This reminds me of the Tiger Woods problem in golf. He had so much success that people think a golfer is only successful if he wins a major.

            Floyd moved the bar so far financially in boxing that people now have unrealistic expectations about how PPV buys are supposed to work. Go check Oscar's numbers, Tyson's numbers, Manny's...Floyd just had a crazy run where all his fights cleared 900k buys for like 8 years straight. That's not realistic. Nobody ever did that.

            Canelo's numbers actually aren't that bad in comparison to history, but people thinks he's supposed to do mayweather numbers. That's not realistic, unless he's in a competitive fight.

            There are huge boxing stars that couldn't sell any PPVs. Just Google "Pay Per View" and look at the data on the wiki page. Learn something people.

            Roy Jones never did 1 mill ppv buys.

            It's not that easy.

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              #86
              Originally posted by MantisToboggan View Post
              that is why Lomachenko >>>>>> Mayweather. Even if he did not face the same competition YET. He is already miles better then Mayweather skillwise.
              hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!! Loma is really good but to say he is MILES better than floyd at this point in his career is just silly. if he did not face the same level of comp, how can he be miles better??????

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                #87
                Most good fights being on PPV is hurting PPV. Not Mayweather-Pacquiao.

                Crawford-Postol for example was never gonna do good numbers regardless of May-Pac performances. GGG-Lemiuex, Ward-Kovalev, even Mayweather-Berto were never gonna do crazy numbers. Mayweather-Berto PPV would've been 500k PPVs no matter what. If it happened in 2011 in place of Berto-Ortiz, then we're talking different numbers.

                Boxers, promoters, and journalists using Mayweather-Pacquiao PPV as a scapegoat but watch Mayweather-McGregor do like 2 million.

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                  #88
                  No doubt about it....

                  Killed boxing in America...


                  Dempsey-Tunney
                  Louis-schmelling
                  Ali-Frazier
                  Leonard-hagler

                  Compare that to Floyd-manny

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                    #89
                    If that's how you feel about their PPV then what do you say about your PPV last night?

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