Comments Thread For: Porter-Berto Bout Drew Average of 468,000 Viewers on Showtime

[JASON SHAW]

you mean ring ****zine hasn't covered how horrible the espn2 ratings have been?!?

i dont read ring ****zine... But i dont think boxingscene has covered the golden boy espn2 ratings at all....They have had like 4 or 5 cards already

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

Since when does he have bad ratings?

Averaging around 700k is horrible for HBO considering how many subscribers they have.

[GhostofDempsey]

Terrible. Showtime needs to do 600k and above. That's equivalent to a million on HBO. But that's what happens when you go so far in between cards. The last Showtime boxing card on Saturday night card was Broner vs. Granados in February. Showtime doesn't have a Game of Thrones to keep viewers subscribed. They can't go two months without broadcasting a fight. Joshua vs. Klitschko should be on CBS evening. HBO is going to do better ratings with the replay. Spence vs Brook should be on CBS evening. They ain't showing nothing during those times

What kind of math are you spinning? Loma's fight did twice as many viewers and all you haters were talking about how bad those numbers were. Now you want to defend Showtime and Haymon by offering up excuses like this.

Lomachenco ratings has been horrible on HBO but yall act like they not lol

His ratings were higher than several PBC/Haymon productions in recent years. Only 9 fights in, not too bad.

As has already been explained, Showtime's boxing ratings are artificially low and HBO's boxing ratings are artificially high.

This is because HBO does everything possible to maximize their first run live viewing number while Showtime does everything possible to make things as convenient as they can for their subscribers.

SHOWTIME ANYTIME allows you to stream boxing live even though these viewers will not be reflected in the published number. HBO GO does not allow you to stream boxing live because it will not be reflected in the published number.

Showtime replays boxing in the middle of the night even though these viewers will not be reflected in the published number. HBO will not replay until the morning because they don't want a late night showing to take away from the live number.

SHOWTIME ANYTIME offers the entire telecast the next day. HBO GO refuses to offer the entire telecast and fights aren't available for several days. All done to make it as unappealing as possible to watch anything other than the live showing. While Showtime gives their viewers tons of options instead of obsessing over the live number, a number which is completely irrelevant other than for PR purposes.

That's some real fanboy shyt right there. You guys invest a lot of time and effort into trying to defend one promoter/network while trying to discredit another. At least gets facts straight if you are going to hate.

Maybe Im strange, but why do ratings matter? Who cares, really? Obviously, some people on this forum do, but why? Even if the ratings are very low, as long as they put Fights on TV for us to Watch, who cares if our neighbors are Watching or not? Let's just enjoy Watching The Fights we want to. At least thats how I see it....

This has been my question in recent years. Back when I started watching boxing no one gave two shyts about how many fans tuned in to watch or how many PPVs sold. The Mayweather era has created a divide among fans that now extends to promoters, networks and viewership/PPV numbers in order to quantify a fighter's "Greatness". Sad.

[GMAN SUPREME]

Averaging around 700k is horrible for HBO considering how many subscribers they have.

no it isn't you dumbass. its a good number especially when you look at the fact that loma has no built in fan base. lomachenko's last fight ****d porter vs berto. 850k loma's ratings are only going to go up from here on out.

[Motorcity Cobra]

What kind of math are you spinning? Loma's fight did twice as many viewers and all you haters were talking about how bad those numbers were. Now you want to defend Showtime and Haymon by offering up excuses like this.



His ratings were higher than several PBC/Haymon productions in recent years. Only 9 fights in, not too bad.



That's some real fanboy shyt right there. You guys invest a lot of time and effort into trying to defend one promoter/network while trying to discredit another. At least gets facts straight if you are going to hate.



This has been my question in recent years. Back when I started watching boxing no one gave two shyts about how many fans tuned in to watch or how many PPVs sold. The Mayweather era has created a divide among fans that now extends to promoters, networks and viewership/PPV numbers in order to quantify a fighter's "Greatness". Sad.

It's called percentage. It's not new math. It's been around for a while

[OnePunch]

boxingscene SO BOXINGSCENE WONT RELEASE THE GOLDEN BOY ON ESPN 2 RATINGS EVERY WEEK? BUT PBC AND SHOWTIME RATINGS THEY NEVER FORGET TO RELEASE? HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?? I NEVER SEE ARTICLES ABOUT GOLDEN BOY ESPN2 RATINGS????? WHO IS THE EDITOR OF THIS CORRUPT SITE?

calling Reeno corrupt?

cool. Then leave and go start your own site. Nobody here will miss your ******ed all-CAPS rants.

Peace..........

[JASON SHAW]

calling reeno corrupt?

Cool. Then leave and go start your own site. Nobody here will miss your ******ed all-caps rants.

Peace..........

are you reenos personal butt boy? Take your tears somewhere else ****

[OnePunch]

are you reenos personal butt boy? Take your tears somewhere else ****

well at least your ******ed self-hating azz finally found the CAPS button. Thats a step in the right direction.

[JASON SHAW]

well at least your ******ed self-hating azz finally found the CAPS button. Thats a step in the right direction.

MY BAD, YOUR MOTHER SAT ON THE CAPS BUTTON BY ACCIDENT... THERE YOU GO :bukkake:

[Willy Wanker]

That's a shame, it was a good fight too.