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    #71
    Originally posted by 123tommy View Post
    My only problem is Santa Cruz almost got robbed in Vegas.If he agrees to Belfast there's almost got to be a rematch clause.I want the trilogy with a clear winner.4 would be too much but he did say he'd fight over there.So there's that
    Yeah he almost did get robbed. Go look at the score cards on the first 5 round when Leo was boxing brilliantly and using that jab to stop Frampton in his tracks and they gave Fenton 2 of those rounds???

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      #72
      I didn't believe Santa Cruz.

      I'm definitely a fan. I was a fan of Leo's when I saw Frampton taking the first one, and I was a fan still when I predicted him to win again.

      I didn't believe Santa Cruz when he said he fought the first fight for the fans, and was now proclaiming that this fight would be for him, and the victory.

      I didn't think he would do much of anything different, perhaps be more selective early until full scale war ignited.

      But I thoroughly enjoyed being set straight as a result of this man's performance. He fought a great fight! I'd give him an 'A', for not only for the things he did in the ring, but also for the things he didn't do. This was a beautiful display of having a perfect game plan and sticking to it. What, did one judge have it even? I saw a clear LSC win, and have more respect for his skills now.

      Originally posted by b morph View Post
      ..I also want to say, I think showtime ****s on HBO with everything they're doing right now. Production, calling the fights, just everything...
      Would agree with the production part, but I must have hit my Mauro Ranallo fill because I thought he ****** heavily last night. Several times throwing questions to a name instead of any coworker in general, then interrupting their answer with some, "aawoa" sound effect before they could finish. Very weak performance. Lamest performance was calling Jesus Soto Karass 'battle tested' about 500 times one night.

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        #73
        That was a pretty conclusive win for Santa Cruz in my opinion. I don't particularly need to see it again tbh

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          #74
          Originally posted by taste View Post
          Would agree with the production part, but I must have hit my Mauro Ranallo fill because I thought he ****** heavily last night. Several times throwing questions to a name instead of any coworker in general, then interrupting their answer with some, "aawoa" sound effect before they could finish. Very weak performance. Lamest performance was calling Jesus Soto Karass 'battle tested' about 500 times one night.
          I only watched the main event cuz I recorded it. Idk most of the time it seems they're on point with how they're calling everything. I think I just grew tired of the Jim Lampley antics. Max sometimes works my nerves too. I like Roy Jones though, he's cool.

          Also, Showtimes just puts on better, more interesting fights and match ups.

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            #75
            Leo fought well and deserved the win over Frampton

            Leo fought a very smart fight and listened to his corner and won a his belts back. the third fight will be a doozy but Leo has the edge because of speed and size. Now if the fight is in Belfast every is off and Framp wins.

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              #76
              I totally agree with that Showtime vs HBO comment. Showtime is head and shoulders above HBO. HBO should revamp their entire commentary staff, including Lederman.

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                #77
                Great fight.
                Fair result.
                And credit to Frampton for taking his loss like a man and giving his opponent his due.

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                  #78
                  Awsome bout.

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                    #79
                    Really good fight. Great performance from Leo. Backed up his talk about being able to box and trading by choice 100%. Carl was obviously uncomfortable with having to lead but he rose to the challenge in a way that many counterpunchers don't.


                    I found it very hard to score. Several basically even rounds. In the end I would say that Leo was the clear winner in more rounds than Carl, and he deserved the decision on that basis.

                    Looking forward to the rubber match. I don't think these guys are on the Barrera-Morales level but they are world class all the same. And two class acts as well. Great post-fight interviews from both. Refreshing.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody View Post
                      Poor corner work. I may have it wrong but at one point it looked like Frampton was stood waiting for about 5secs while they grabbed the stool, and at another point Shane had to shout twice to get a water bottle passed over. Little things like this can make or break a fight. I don't like Shane too much anyway so I may be biased

                      With the right guy in the corner, Frampton could've taken that fight. Shane wasn't up to it tonight
                      I don't want to be too critical of Shane because Frampton has improved a lot over the last 2-3 years. But I was pissed off at his comments at the end of the 8th round. Carl had just had arguably his best round of the fight and seemed to have found his groove. Shane told him he lost the round and what he was dong wasn't working.

                      I thought that was a very dumb move. Carl went away from what he had been doing and the momentum swung right back to Santa Cruz. I can understand Shane wanting to motivate his fighter, but don't tell him to do something different when he has finally found a way to win rounds clearly! I think Carl lost his way after that. Maybe Leo would have closed the show anyway, but bad advice is bad advice.

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