Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Spence-Brook, Joshua-PEDs, GGG-Jacobs

[M Bison]

the fact you even mentioned that proves my point

that is a terribly weak inference, you are scraping together "evidence" no matter how circumstantial/weak/irrelevant

also, he has looked like that for more than a decade, and is a dedicated gym-rat

there are only 2 issues in my book

1) has he refused USADA/VADA testing ?

2) does he pass USADA/VADA testing, when implemented ?

it NEVER once occurred to you to consider why Pac was a 1200+ punch fighter when he was refusing testing, but then suddenly became a normal 500-600 punch fighter when he finally agreed..... did it?

the main problem with you couch-experts is that you guys see whatever you want to see, regardless

I don't think I should ever accept steroid advice from a pacfan

and btw, Pac also pedalled drugs in his younger years

Bit like Margarito was a high volume puncher
Bit like Hopkins use to throw a lot leather in his younger days
Father time takes its effect sooner or later, should we be listening to a constant critic who only *****es and moans per post or should we be listening to logical reasoning, people who actually have education in fitness and people who actually go to the gym?

Kind of obvious, maybe If you didn't troll so much your opinion would be took more seriously.

[aboutfkntime]

GGG has a diverse range of fans all over the world supporting him White, Black, Asian and so on the people saying its only white people are racist idiots who think boxing is still in the 60's where you only root for fighters the same colour or nationality as you.

We're all fans of the sport we're entitled to say whatever we want as ridiculous as it may sound for some I think both Spence and GGG both exceptionally talented fighters I think Spence can go on to do what GGG is doing by being a dominant champion the fact Spence isn't a boring no-action type of fighter only boosts his oppertunities I think he is better than Crawford and I think GGG is better than Ward neither are ridiculous things to say for me.

Willing to bet my left nut that making the Brook Vs Spence fight and Thurman/Garcia Vs. Spence fight in the same year is something that is impossible to do.

The eye test can make you think whatever you want to think, I think Spence beats everyone at 147, I think he would beat a prime Shane Mosley as do I think GGG would beat a prime Marvin Hagler what's more annoying is to me is people acting like you're not allowed to have an opinion that goes against theirs.

ok, listen..... don't EVER mention the eye-test again

you SEE what you want to SEE

[aboutfkntime]

Bit like Margarito was a high volume puncher
Bit like Hopkins use to throw a lot leather in his younger days
Father time takes its effect sooner or later, should we be listening to a constant critic who only *****es and moans per post or should we be listening to logical reasoning, people who actually have education in fitness and people who actually go to the gym?

Kind of obvious, maybe If you didn't troll so much your opinion would be took more seriously.

Pac went from looking "faded..... been in too many wars"~ Manny Steward, against Marquez II..... to looking either "revitalized" or "rejuvenated"~ Manny Steward (can't remember the exact word that Steward used, but the video is readily available on youtube) against Diaz 3 months later..... Pac gained 15lbs of muscle in 9 months while skipping through 3 divisions, and he DOUBLED his punch output

..... oh, and then he killed a super-fight by publicly refusing random blood tests

where was your logical reasoning then ?

which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

dude..... not only are you NOT an expert, or anything close..... you are clearly seeing what you want to see

come on man

[TexasCowBoy]

Breadman needs to be replaced asap.....breadman is a very biased person and in this age of the Internet ...negativity is not gonna cut it....you breadman were on probation for a while and now you just lost a reader.

[The plunger man]

AJ is the best heavyweight in the world...period

[BoxngLove]

To previous comment: Vastly Unproven & Untested yet - AJ is not yet the best HW in the world he has not even beaten a contender much less a champion ... Exclamation point
I just made a comparison to Tito and Coralles last week and some hater tried to troll me about it. V/similar styles
Like the comparison to to pressure VS bulldozer fighter. Bull like hatton loses to matador; pressure like Hearns loses to strong counter puncher like Sugar Ray.
These are all very great point and counterpoints. Doing a great job breadman, don't listen to the hate.
-Regards

[Progrssive_Jedi]

but Floyd is the one solely responsible for all this testing going on.. that's a fact. so Floyd does deserve credit for cleaning up the sport. I don't care about his personality or antics, he started this random testing thing and everybody else followed suit. bottom line. .he was called a coward for it too.

Floyd only did it to hype himself, then controlled when he could be tested. It was a farce.

I didn't read your entire post, even though I think you are making a somewhat valid point. One major difference is that GGG is 34 and Spence is 26. GGG has been around for a while with limited success getting people in the ring, but Spence should be around for quite some time and is even willing to take the short end of a 75-25 split to get Brook in the UK. That's refreshing to see. The excitement for Spence is similar to the excitement for Joshua; I believe. I think of it more as excitement for Spence. Whereas, people have claims that GGG can own anyone from 154-168 but have not matched that expectation considering how long it has taken for him to get a credible opponent. There aren't really any expectations coming from Spence or his camp. One is trying to match expectation, the other is a source for excitement. The difference may be petty, but it matters among many boxing fans. Either way, both should get the appropriate level of respect for what they've done in the ring. Not too high or too low.

Golovkin made sacrifices when he came out. He offered to fight for his first title shot for basically free.

But at this point he is 35 and gas fought his way into the level he is.

He didn't turn pro until he was Spence ages. He didn't gave the opportunity Spence does.

It's a false equivalence.

[DeLorean]

Floyd only did it to hype himself, then controlled when he could be tested. It was a farce.

how was it a farce when everybody is doing it now? give the man his credit. he was called a coward.. "let the commission do it's job", now look at everybody. Pacquiao ducked the biggest fight ever over blood testing and fans gave him a pass because of their hatred for Floyd.. only to do the same testing he was afraid of last year.

[aboutfkntime]

how was it a farce when everybody is doing it now? give the man his credit. he was called a coward.. "let the commission do it's job", now look at everybody. Pacquiao ducked the biggest fight ever over blood testing and fans gave him a pass because of their hatred for Floyd.. only to do the same testing he was afraid of last year.

to be fair, I don't give Mayweather much credit for cleaning up the sport

Mayweather knew that a lot of fighters were using steroids, and he heard rumors about Pac from Wild Card..... that stuff about cleaning up the sport, was just Floyd grandstanding

he was right, no question..... and more testing simply has to be better for the sport..... but his motivation was to ensure a level playing field for HIM, not to clean up the sport..... he demanded that every Mayweather opponent test, but did not make those same demands from his fighters

NOT bashing Mayweather, just keeping it real.

Mayweather knew that Pac was juicing, that is why he stuck to his guns.

[HandsofIron]

Corrales was a killer immediately before they fought.

He's comparable to Robert Guerrero, imo. Trinidad's on another level.