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    #31
    Originally posted by Scott. Weiland View Post
    Best win was Pascal ! Here we go, Kovalev just was not very good to start with right ?

    You're pathetic.
    yeah i am pathetic but not for the post above. I said before the fight even happened that the winner shouldnt be classed as p4p automatically. People slate GGG's resume but wtf is kovalevs then, 50 year old hopkins who joe smith smashed out of the ring, jean pascal and nathan cleverly? Why does beating kovalev (in highly highly controversial circumstances) and doing jack ****ing **** else in 5 years make someone p4p? Ward is 5th in my list

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      #32
      Originally posted by bigdramashow View Post
      yeah i am pathetic but not for the post above. I said before the fight even happened that the winner shouldnt be classed as p4p automatically. People slate GGG's resume but wtf is kovalevs then, 50 year old hopkins who joe smith smashed out of the ring, jean pascal and nathan cleverly? Why does beating kovalev (in highly highly controversial circumstances) and doing jack ****ing **** else in 5 years make someone p4p? Ward is 5th in my list
      Kovalev was coming off of some of the most convincing wins of his career, albeit not the best opposition he had faced, yet he still absolutely outclassed the like of Shumenov who was a title holder in his division just as GGG is a title holder in his division.

      Everybody on this forum respected Kovalev before the fight, absolutely everyone. The only ones hurt the fight was happening were the ones fearful Kovalev may in fact lose to Ward. 'Ward won't fight Krusher, i dont care jf its signed' was the constant rhetoric here from broke back GGG blow hards like yourself.

      Highly controversial ! Controversial if you were emotionally invested in the outcome.

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        #33
        Originally posted by bigdramashow View Post
        yeah i am pathetic but not for the post above. I said before the fight even happened that the winner shouldnt be classed as p4p automatically. People slate GGG's resume but wtf is kovalevs then, 50 year old hopkins who joe smith smashed out of the ring, jean pascal and nathan cleverly? Why does beating kovalev (in highly highly controversial circumstances) and doing jack ****ing **** else in 5 years make someone p4p? Ward is 5th in my list
        Fifth in your list behind who, this should make for entertaining reading, let me guess they're all white and all Eastern European but for one exception to make it look unbiased ?

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          #34
          Originally posted by Scott. Weiland View Post
          Kovalev was coming off of some of the most convincing wins of his career, albeit not the best opposition he had faced, yet he still absolutely outclassed the like of Shumenov who was a title holder in his division just as GGG is a title holder in his division.

          Everybody on this forum respected Kovalev before the fight, absolutely everyone. The only ones hurt the fight was happening were the ones fearful Kovalev may in fact lose to Ward. 'Ward won't fight Krusher, i dont care jf its signed' was the constant rhetoric here from broke back GGG blow hards like yourself.

          Highly controversial ! Controversial if you were emotionally invested in the outcome.
          all im saying is i havent done a 180. I said all along that the winner of that fight wasnt automatically p4p number 1 in my eyes. And there wasnt a clear winner. I never understood why people were getting so carried away with that fight, people honestly made out them two were head and shoulders above anyone else in boxing. Cant say i was blown away by the skill level in the fight either to be honest, much more impressed with lomachenko than either of them two. Would think usyk would wipe the floor with them both if they go up to cruiser, and i'd fancy beterbiev to beat them both (beating kovalev for the 3rd time)

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            #35
            Originally posted by Scott. Weiland View Post
            Fifth in your list behind who, this should make for entertaining reading, let me guess they're all white and all Eastern European but for one exception to make it look unbiased ?
            5th is generous. In 5 years hes beaten a bunch of nobodys and one controversial decision. Im not bias at all. Like everyone else, mayweather was top of my pound for pound list. My top 5, is GGG,lomachenko, pacquiao, kovalev, ward.

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              #36
              Originally posted by bigdramashow View Post
              all im saying is i havent done a 180. I said all along that the winner of that fight wasnt automatically p4p number 1 in my eyes. And there wasnt a clear winner. I never understood why people were getting so carried away with that fight, people honestly made out them two were head and shoulders above anyone else in boxing. Cant say i was blown away by the skill level in the fight either to be honest, much more impressed with lomachenko than either of them two. Would think usyk would wipe the floor with them both if they go up to cruiser, and i'd fancy beterbiev to beat them both (beating kovalev for the 3rd time)
              What has Beyerbiev done ? Why can't you guys just be patient instead of having another Shabranskyy egg type moment on your faces ?

              Usyk is a monster talent and I believe he will unify at heavyweight. Loma is destined for great achievements, he has not achieved what Krusher and WRd have yet though, can he emulate, sure, will he ? Likely I suppose. I'm a huge Loma and Usyk fan, don't mean I have to make outlandish claims though.

              For me Ward and Krusher are no.1 and 2 in the sport, nobody ever did to Ward what Krusher did and vice versa. I'll happily go along with the notion Gonzalez is no.2 if if means Ward is 1a and Krusher 1b, I don't understand why boxing fans can't be happy at having seen such a great fight, Ward nullified the boogeyman, I'm sure you'll tell me GGG would beat then both though right ? I forgot GGG has wins over Canelo and already beat Krusher too both in sparring ! Gotta add those victories for GGG ain't we.

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                #37
                Originally posted by bigdramashow View Post
                5th is generous. In 5 years hes beaten a bunch of nobodys and one controversial decision. Im not bias at all. Like everyone else, mayweather was top of my pound for pound list. My top 5, is GGG,lomachenko, pacquiao, kovalev, ward.
                Yes five is generous, Loma beat Walters who Walters had destroyed everyone he faced in the 11 months leading up to his Loma fight and GGG holds sparring wins over Canelo and Kovalev, he is TBE.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Mc,Lovin View Post
                  Oh I will be first inline to downplay anything lil g does
                  It's not that I hate him I just find him and his fans an easy target
                  Plus I'm the type of man who would see GGG in the street and call him a goodboy
                  I do the same to pacquiao and his fans
                  I'm actually a big fan of both
                  Like you guys call it, nutters.. We have a few of those kind of fans for every fighter..

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                    #39
                    Voted Chocolatito because Ward looked like he lost his last fight.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Red-Cyclone View Post
                      The dummygraphic are in full swing today plus most of the European guys who visit this site likely are still working unlike those jobless, uneducated fans.


                      Not that I care.

                      But people who think Ward is p4p 1 are not even real boxing fans

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